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    • MSE Martin
    • By MSE Martin 14th Feb 06, 12:44 PM
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    The Great 'Wine Tart' Hunt
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    • 14th Feb 06, 12:44 PM
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    The Great 'Wine Tart' Hunt 14th Feb 06 at 12:44 PM
    Wine clubs are popping up all over the place, from retailers to newspapers. Many have introductory offers giving big discounts for the first order. Which got me to thinking, can you 'wine tart', zipping around the different clubs to grab the intro deals? I thought I’d tap MoneySavers’ collective (un)consciousness to find your wine tart tips.

    Please detail any wine grabbing discounts available from any sources. Of course many of these offers involve multiple ordering, so it’s a case of order the intro case then cancel the direct debit or you'll keep paying...

    Click reply to detail your top spots.

    Last edited by Former MSE Natasha; 12-09-2006 at 5:03 PM.
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  • flowereen
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    • 14th Feb 06, 4:20 PM
    Sunday Times Wine Club
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    • 14th Feb 06, 4:20 PM
    I recently joined the Sunday Times Wine Club - no fee to join. I got an introductory case of 12 bottles for about £50 - all decent enough wine, I also got three free bottles of nice rioja. I have since ordered another case - agian all good stuff and with 6 free wine glasses. I have been very pleased with the service too - cases always arrive within a week and the telephone staff are very helpful.

    The best bargain came when I recommended my partner. He ordered 6 cheapish bottles and got a free bottles of the club Champaign. As a thank you I got a free bottle of Champaign and four free bottles of Rioja. The value of my free gift was over the value of his order.
    • jeppy
    • By jeppy 14th Feb 06, 4:47 PM
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    • 14th Feb 06, 4:47 PM
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    • 14th Feb 06, 4:47 PM
    I ordered the Eclipse from Tesco (1/2 price at £57 for 12) last week, I used the 1000 points code, this code is for 12 bootles of wine, 6 must be champagne, but as this sparkling wine is made by moet and chandon the points went through.

    Equivalent of 12 bottles for £62 (inc postage) - £40 tesco rewards points (Iam saving for a holiday and very quickly too!!) = £12 for 12 bottles, tastes like champagne!!
  • Bob63
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    • 14th Feb 06, 5:51 PM
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    • 14th Feb 06, 5:51 PM
    In the mail this morning NatWest Wine Club run by Australia Direct.

    The Australian Discovery case 7 x bottles of very nice looking Aussie wine - £44.99 +£5.99 p&p. Get 7 extra equally nice bottles free when you order.

    They then send you a specially selected case every 3 months but you can opt out at any time. I think it is only open to NatWest card holders. Call 0870 162 0333 quoting reference MW05. (damn those 0870 numbers...)

    However, I won't be buying it. I have never found any of these special offer cases to be especially good value.

    Having been a customer of Virgin Wines, Laithwaites (including Sunday Times / National Trust which they run), Spain Direct and Averys, I now buy most of my wine online at Tesco. I just wait until a tempting half-price or deal-of-the-day wine offer comes out and buy it. I have never been let down.

    I also regularly buy wine from Costco.

    Mike
    • HLK
    • By HLK 15th Feb 06, 12:45 AM
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    HLK
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    • 15th Feb 06, 12:45 AM
    Laithwaites £50 off first case !!
    • #5
    • 15th Feb 06, 12:45 AM
    Laithwaites wine plan can be cancelled at any time but when you first join you can purchase 15 bottles (mixed, red or white) for 39.99 plus postage. Just ordered mine - I will report back when I've sampled a couple . hic
    link is here

    I forgot to mention - this is £50 off your first case !!!! some what better than the £20 off first purchase voucher - anyway my FIFTEEN bottles arrives today! First glass of Cabernet S @ 15% takes pretty good to me!
    Last edited by HLK; 15-02-2006 at 7:19 PM. Reason: left the best bit out
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    • N9eav
    • By N9eav 15th Feb 06, 9:05 AM
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    • 15th Feb 06, 9:05 AM
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    • 15th Feb 06, 9:05 AM
    I hav'nt seen too many that are less than £45 with postage, Still not bad but it's still £45.

    I find the best way is to go to Sainsbury, Tesco etc and buy some of their weekly offer wine.
    Last week they had a nice shiraz and a nice white for £2.99 reduced from £5.99.
    I get 10% off as my daughter works there. No postage and no min or max order
    so 12 x 2.69 = £32.28 - 5% for buying six or more bottles = £30.

    Good deal. However you may not have a staff discount card.
    NO to pasty tax We won!!!! Just shows that people power works! Don't be apathetic to your cause!
    • MJay
    • By MJay 15th Feb 06, 9:16 AM
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    • 15th Feb 06, 9:16 AM
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    • 15th Feb 06, 9:16 AM
    I was in Laithwaites and the wines I received were excellent- both in quality and value. My tip is to join any supermarket wine clubs still open. They cost nothing and Tesco's send money off vouchers / extra points offers everytime they send mailing. Best I've had recently was a voucher for £2 off any wine from Sainsburys to apologise that there wine mag was ceasing. They had a special offer wine that was £3 off in store so I used the voucher to buy a £6 bottle for 99p!!!
    • mr_fishbulb
    • By mr_fishbulb 15th Feb 06, 10:24 AM
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    • 15th Feb 06, 10:24 AM
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    • 15th Feb 06, 10:24 AM
    There are lots of cashback opportunities on quidco:
    http://www.quidco.com/?search=wine


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  • mcnutsuk
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    • 15th Feb 06, 10:32 AM
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    • 15th Feb 06, 10:32 AM
    I bought a box (6 bottles) of Wolf Blass Black Label from Sainsbury’s. There was only one box on the shelf with no price. So, I asked an assistant how much it was, he went to the manager and came back with a price of ₤24.99 for the box. I thought that was a good deal (especially for Wolf Blass) and bought the box.

    After coming home I did a quick search on the internet and found that the store manager had made a bit of a misprice. The wine is usually sold at ₤24.99 a bottle! So I got a deal of 6 for the price of 1. Not bad eh?

    Anyway, keep your eyes open at Sains for a similar Wolf Blass Black Label Box (very nice packaging) and perhaps you may get the same deal.
  • Somerled
    Forget Wine clubs for cheap wine its a con!
    I've looked at loads of online/mailorder wine deals and none of them seem to beat the supermarket deals. Asda is one of my favourites as it has an ongoing 10% off deal for buying 6 bottles at a time. Couple this to the 3 for £10 deal means that you can get 6 bottles for £18 or less, i.e. £3.00 a bottle of a relatively nice wine which usually retails for upto £4.00 - OK its not half price like some instore promotions but who thinks up the prices anyway? And some of the wines on offer can be nasty.
    For me the South African Dumisani Pinotage Shiraz red ABV 14.5% is worth the £3.00 - or the Asda Cava after Christmas some stores were selling for £2.78 = £2.50 if you buy six at a time.

    Doesnt the law of the land say that a product must be on sale for a minimum of 28 days to ascertain a price before it can be classified as a SRP. Talk about something being open to abuse.
    Last edited by Somerled; 15-02-2006 at 11:06 AM. Reason: Typo
  • Norman Osborn
    Mailorder wine is fine
    I dont agree what you say about mailorder wine deals being a con. I have worked for a couple of mailorder wine suppliers and we always gave the normal selling price as honestly as we could. After gathering information about producer, vintage, region and then actually tasting the wine (the best bit!) we would between us come up with what we thought was a fair representation of the wines' normal selling price. If a customer was to call up and order a bottle of that wine they would pay that normal selling price, however, in any marketing activity we were selling a case of 12 bottles so you knock some off the price to make it more attractive.

    I never felt we were ripping people off, in fact the quality of the wine compared to supermarket bottles of the same price was better in my opinion.

    P.S. I'm a bit new to forums so hope I don't do this wrong!
  • DuncanMiller
    Hi there my first post on the forums, have been following the news letters quite a lot but decide to sign up!

    One option is if you use kitkash and sign up to virgin one they give you £25 off your first order. This can only be applied to a case were £60 or more though.

    I have to agree with some of the other posters though, the best way to get cheap wine is watch out in the supermarkets for special offers. I find tesco alway have at least one "expensive" wine on special offer at half price or £3/£4 off. Combine that with their buy 6 bottles and save 10% offer and you get a fairly good deal.

    Duncan
  • purplemoon
    I find the best way is to buy from supermarkets- you can then get the pick of the offers and choose from their range. I do a Tesco delivery very rarely (and when ther's a good voucher going!) then I get whatever wines are half price (lots at the moment), plus tins, value fizzy water, anything else heavy. With the voucher, the points, etc works out well. I used Co-Op wine before they finished, and again you could pickand choose...
    There was a very good deal here once for a Virgin wine club with a voucher- worked out less than £2 a bottle. I got 2, and as some of the wine was bad they refunded me for several bottles- at full price!! I also sometimes get giordanos wine if its a deal that comes with Italian foodstuff!
    My mum has just done a wine club no-no... She's moved house and forget to tell them- its been delivered to the new people (who accepted). They really are horrid, horrid people- even if she gets a refund or another case its horrible they got such a treat!
  • smegster
    you're looking at it from the wrong angle
    Official Insert:

    Tesco currently has a 20% off all wine and champagne promotion (it ends 26 Feb). MoneySaver Smegster has spotted a great deal there on Cono Sur Chilean Pinot Noir here. We've moved it further up so you can find it straight away

    Back to the original post.....

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    A £2.99 bottle of wine is made up of:
    VAT 44.5p
    Duty £1.26
    Retailers profit 64p
    suppliers profit 10p
    Then when you take in the cost of glass, label, closure, cardboard case, transportation cost (and if the wine comes from outside the EU then it is liable for another tax of 9p a bottle)

    This leaves roughly 13 pence which is to cover the cost of the wine and the wineries profit. On this basis how good do you really think it can be?

    As the duty is a fixed cost then spend another pound a bottle and you are looking at about 70p for wine. The more you spend the more is available for the actual wine.

    This is meant to be about saving money not just buying cheap rubbish isn't it?
    Don't get me wrong I'm not being snobby about wine but before you go buying the cheapest thing around ask yourself why you are buying a bottle of wine in the first place. If it's to get drunk the buy a really cheap bottle of vodka and be done with it.

    If it's a tasty beverage you are after then flavour has to be as important a consideration as price.

    The trick is to haggle. Independent wine shops (specialists not offies) will make at least 30% profit on return and will definately have some good £3.99 and £4.99 wines. Either buy a few and try them or ask for advice or just be plain cheeeky and ask to taste. Once you've settled upon a wine then haggle, remember that you won't really get a good deal unless you agree to buy a minimum 12 bottles. Also keep an eye out for bin-ends as this is a great way to buy a wine for much, much less than it should be.

    BEWARE!! BOGOF's in the supermarkets or anywhere else for that matter are too good to be true. As the Supermarkets like to protect their margin (on wine this is between 30% and 45%) they get the producer to fund these promotions. Because this has meant that the producer was running at quite a hefty loss they have found a way round it. Kumala Zenith and Hardys Crest are the best examples, these are wines that sell at £7.99 but are regularly sold at 50% off or BOGOF. In reality these are mediocre £3.99 wines dressed up a bit and then doubled up just to reduce. You think you've saved a fortune yet really you've just been taken for a dummy.

    Sorry if this is a little long winded but there is unfortunately plenty more where that came from.

    Just to show that this isn't an anti-supermarket rant follow this link for a REAL bargain http://www.tesco.com/winestore/controller.aspx?Bc=70032+60192&Bc2=70032%7cSpecial +offers*60192%7cRed&R=3113600&sid=100D700C5872
    Last edited by MSE Andrea; 21-02-2006 at 4:43 PM.
    • --Tony--
    • By --Tony-- 15th Feb 06, 3:21 PM
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    --Tony--
    A £2.99 bottle of wine is made up of:
    VAT 44.5p
    Duty £1.26
    Retailers profit 64p
    suppliers profit 10p
    Then when you take in the cost of glass, label, closure, cardboard case, transportation cost (and if the wine comes from outside the EU then it is liable for another tax of 9p a bottle)

    This leaves roughly 13 pence which is to cover the cost of the wine and the wineries profit. On this basis how good do you really think it can be?
    by smegster
    This does not really stack up on good quality wine that is on offer at half price as the other poster was saying as your really getting a £6 bottle for £3.

    I do agree with you if the RRP is £2.99
    .
    • theloft
    • By theloft 15th Feb 06, 4:17 PM
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    I've usually found the wine from Wine Clubs to be of excellent quality and am also a member of The Wine Society. But you can't get away from the fact that the Supermarkets buying power gives them a huge advantage and if you know what you are looking for and where to buy, then if money saving is your priority - you cannot beat them on price. So for excellent details of current wine offers available in Supermarkets (including Majestic Wine Warehouses), I rely on our very own Quaffers Offers.

    Have a look here : http://www.quaffersoffers.co.uk/
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  • smegster
    "This does not really stack up on good quality wine that is on offer at half price as the other poster was saying as your really getting a £6 bottle for £3."

    Half price wine is make believe, do you really think that the supermarkets sell below cost? Just one look at Tescos profits sorts that out. When was the last time you saw a wine that is half price on regular sale in a supermarket?

    They put a small amount of stock into a small number of stores for 28 days at £6 and then roll it out across the rest of the stores at 50% off this stops them getting in trouble. Be honest when was the last time you bought a £6 wine at 50% off and thought to yourself that it was definately worth the full price?
  • steadybagger
    Hi,

    This is my first post and I hope wine lovers use it to bag a bargain case of wine! Laithwaites offer new customers a £20 voucher redeemable against any case of wine costing £64.99 or more, the code is LWSV246 and needs to be entered at the payment stage, a direct link is below:-

    http://www.laithwaites.co.uk/xsite.pasp?xsite=voucher_mp_140904.xml&imi=tradedo ubler&mrc=kr96

    Interestingly Laithwaites system isn't sophisticated enough to determine whether you're a new customer or not, so as long as your case costs £64.99 or more, you can use this voucher every time you order!

    I'm on my fifth case of discounted wine using this code and have quaffed some splendid vintages at reasonable cost.

    Cheers!
    Andy.
    by smial1966
    Is that an affiliated link, how much do you make off each order?
  • Wakehurst
    The real cost of cheap wine
    Interesting posts buts let take a moment to think about all the thoughts:
    1. There is never going to be one definitive place to buy wine - vintages sell out, makers turn bad, or turn good, fashion can kill a strong selling wine dead, or again a wine can suddanly become 'hot', retailers come and go and retailing itself will drive prices to shift wines or make profit.
    Therefore shop around and use all the information you get to bag that bargin - all outlets are worth a try and with Virgin and Laithwaites if you don't like what you have bought call them and send it back they will replace it at their cost... you never have to drink a dud bottle with these guys.
    2. The cost of the bottle of wine is pretty fixed wherever you are in the world. But the tax payable is vastly different and, of course here in the UK its very high (consisting as it does of duty payable on the importing of the wine and on top of this Vat at retail - you can try British wine to kill one price increase!). So here is the (approx) breakdown:
    Retail cost: £2.99
    Tax (duty and VAT): £1.60 to the government (in France it's £0.02p).
    Bottle, label, cork: £0.36
    Total left for the wine itself: £1.03 (in France it would be £2.61 so it's still worthwhile stocking up in France when you go).

    Interestingly, here is the model for a £5.99 bottle of wine:
    Retail cost: £5.99
    Tax (as above): £2.27
    Bottle etc.: £0.36
    Total left for wine itself: £3.36

    So your extra £3 has bought you £2.33 extra in quality of wine... a great deal?

    The question is therefore at what point do you think the wine makers are making a living and surviving or the supermarket is profitering at their expense? If a supermarket is selling wine cheap, it is having a huge impact on the lives of those making the wine as prices are forced down (as it is for all the produce they sell). It is also worth thinking about the bargins to be had around the £5-£8 bottle mark - this is where the quality sits and the best deals are.

    Laithwaites have, at the moment their Poll Winners cases - 17,000 votes from their customers in a case of wine around the £5/bottle mark - with the new customer discount code mentioned by another member you are laughing. These are wines that taste twice the amount, for me that's a bargin.

    I hope this helps you all...
  • boxxsquare
    Wakehurst...........wake up. I am not sure you could have got more wrong if you'd tried.

    1. With your calculations of what is left for wine on a 2.99 bottle you have made no allowance whatsoever for retailer profit margins. If you look at Smegsters post earlier you will see a pretty accurate calculation.

    2. French duty is just 1p a bottle yet French VAT (TVA) is 20% also because wine is generally a little cheaper on the shelf in France the margins made by the retailers is a little higher.

    3. the cost of a bottle of wine is not fixed. It i a manufactured product just like power tools, and the country of origin has a huge impact upon its actual production cost and local selling cost. For example in Chile the vineyrds have been there longer and the labour is ludicrously cheap, compare this with Oz where they have a minimum wage not too far from our own and the cost of planting all thoe vineyards is pretty steep to sy the least, plus they have a home market for consumption. As such it costs a lot less to produce a bottle of wine in Chile than Australia and it sells for a lot less in Chile (based on equivalent quality by the way)

    4. Buying english wine does not remove the duty element and remember how expensive land is in the UK and you will actually pay more for a pretty dull bottle of English wine than you will for a delicious bottle from any of the other major wine countries.

    5. Although you would reasonably expect to get a better bottle of wine for between £5-£8 in reality you have just the same chance of selecting a duffer from either the wine clubs or the supermarkets or anywhere else for that matter, at this price as you do at £3.99 or £39.99.
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