paying in a check at the Post Office (no bank account)

dcs34

You're abilitee to misspell something in every post is quiet sensational to be fare!

born_again

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said Your carbon credit score/ social credit score on what you can and can not purchase

You are aware that Credit score has nothing to do with banks. It is a made up figure by the Credit Reference Agencies.
Which is never seen by the banks. 🤣

You dont understand!
Im not talking about a "Credit Score". I am talking about a "Social Credit score"

Do you live in China?
As UK does not have anything like this..

Is this from the same people that tell you if a bank crashes you will lose everything?

Yes it is in China but planned for hear in the near future

So banks have never crashed and no one has lost anything ever have they?

Did any account holder lose anything in the 2008 bank bailouts?

What about Grease?

Assuming you have spelt it wrong.
They are not in the UK.

Guess you have not looked at the link re FSCS

Is that because it's not in line with your remit?

FSCS protects customers when authorised financial services firms fail. You could be entitled to compensation of up to £85000. Discover how we can help you.

GringoGoesToVagas

Barkin said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said Your carbon credit score/ social credit score on what you can and can not purchase

You are aware that Credit score has nothing to do with banks. It is a made up figure by the Credit Reference Agencies.
Which is never seen by the banks. 🤣

You dont understand!
Im not talking about a "Credit Score". I am talking about a "Social Credit score"

Do you live in China?
As UK does not have anything like this..

Is this from the same people that tell you if a bank crashes you will lose everything?

Yes it is in China but planned for hear in the near future

So banks have never crashed and no one has lost anything ever have they?

Did any account holder lose anything in the 2008 bank bailouts?

What about Grease?

Haven't seen it in years - thought it was OK.

I though the banks in Grease went bust and no one to bail them out meaning the customers lost every single cent.
What about the Great depression for those of you old enough to remember it. Did the banks no go under and same thing as in 2008. Only thing in 2008 the goves of the world (except Grease and co) bailed the banks out and have not paid any of it back. The great depression was over in 18 months debit paid! 

Well the Debit is about 5 or 10 times what it was to 2008. So you work that one out

GringoGoesToVagas

wmb194 said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

jimjames said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

gary1312 said:

Don't get me wrong - I'm with you in some ways. I don't like banks either, which is why I conduct the majority of my financial affairs through mutual organisations, membership of which make me a part-owner. Current accounts with Nationwide BS and Co-op Bank, savings with other building societies and my local credit union.

So I have been told that if the banks crash you will loose your money, but you wont loose your money in the building societys 

gary1312 said:

 I myself would also much rather receive my pay, currently mandated monthly to my building society account, in a weekly cash pay packet but this is 2025 and no longer how the world works -

I had high hopes of getting out of the system 100%. With no tax to pay or declair, no licences for anything as the trade would be a barter system based upon silver coins. But that idea will have to weight a while now

Just because you're using cash doesn't mean there is no tax to pay. Good luck telling HMRC that you're accepting cash so that you don't need to pay income tax or VAT. Whatever business software you need (or even the phone/computer that you're posting these on) will need licences and payment

I was refering to barter in the form of silver coins for that one

I get that you're a troll but for other people's interest, you assign a fair market value to the barter and declare that as income. You also need to consider VAT. Silver will be trivially easy because its market value on any particular day is easy to determine.

 https://startups.co.uk/tax/how-is-tax-applied-to-bartering/

Who the hell is Starup? what legal bases do they have for charging tax on barter
Oh let me guess they dont! they are part of the "Big Bully Boy Six" scarmoungusing morons to part with money they dont have or ever had in the first place because it was the exchanging of goods and services (no money involved)

Would you like a bag of carrots this month Mr tax man and a bag of patatos next month

you may wish to have a look at a thread i made not so long ago on my barter plans
Old Silver coins; whats there value plz - Page 2 - Silver - The Silver Forum

GingerTim

GringoGoesToVagas said:

Barkin said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said Your carbon credit score/ social credit score on what you can and can not purchase

You are aware that Credit score has nothing to do with banks. It is a made up figure by the Credit Reference Agencies.
Which is never seen by the banks. 🤣

You dont understand!
Im not talking about a "Credit Score". I am talking about a "Social Credit score"

Do you live in China?
As UK does not have anything like this..

Is this from the same people that tell you if a bank crashes you will lose everything?

Yes it is in China but planned for hear in the near future

So banks have never crashed and no one has lost anything ever have they?

Did any account holder lose anything in the 2008 bank bailouts?

What about Grease?

Haven't seen it in years - thought it was OK.

I though the banks in Grease went bust and no one to bail them out meaning the customers lost every single cent.

Absolute rubbish. There was a period where Greeks were not allowed to transfer money out of the country but they didn't lose anything.

It really is remarkable just how gullible the 'awake', the self-declared sceptics, are. They'll believe any old garbage.

GringoGoesToVagas

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said Your carbon credit score/ social credit score on what you can and can not purchase

You are aware that Credit score has nothing to do with banks. It is a made up figure by the Credit Reference Agencies.
Which is never seen by the banks. 🤣

You dont understand!
Im not talking about a "Credit Score". I am talking about a "Social Credit score"

Do you live in China?
As UK does not have anything like this..

Is this from the same people that tell you if a bank crashes you will lose everything?

Yes it is in China but planned for hear in the near future

So banks have never crashed and no one has lost anything ever have they?

Did any account holder lose anything in the 2008 bank bailouts?

What about Grease?

Assuming you have spelt it wrong.
They are not in the UK.

Guess you have not looked at the link re FSCS

Is that because it's not in line with your remit?

FSCS protects customers when authorised financial services firms fail. You could be entitled to compensation of up to £85000. Discover how we can help you.

Hah, the term "you could be" you must think we are all stupid making laws up like that

wmb194

GringoGoesToVagas said:

wmb194 said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

jimjames said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

gary1312 said:

Don't get me wrong - I'm with you in some ways. I don't like banks either, which is why I conduct the majority of my financial affairs through mutual organisations, membership of which make me a part-owner. Current accounts with Nationwide BS and Co-op Bank, savings with other building societies and my local credit union.

So I have been told that if the banks crash you will loose your money, but you wont loose your money in the building societys 

gary1312 said:

 I myself would also much rather receive my pay, currently mandated monthly to my building society account, in a weekly cash pay packet but this is 2025 and no longer how the world works -

I had high hopes of getting out of the system 100%. With no tax to pay or declair, no licences for anything as the trade would be a barter system based upon silver coins. But that idea will have to weight a while now

Just because you're using cash doesn't mean there is no tax to pay. Good luck telling HMRC that you're accepting cash so that you don't need to pay income tax or VAT. Whatever business software you need (or even the phone/computer that you're posting these on) will need licences and payment

I was refering to barter in the form of silver coins for that one

I get that you're a troll but for other people's interest, you assign a fair market value to the barter and declare that as income. You also need to consider VAT. Silver will be trivially easy because its market value on any particular day is easy to determine.

 https://startups.co.uk/tax/how-is-tax-applied-to-bartering/

Who the hell is Starup? what legal bases do they have for charging tax on barter
Oh let me guess they dont! they are part of the "Big Bully Boy Six" scarmoungusing morons to part with money they dont have or ever had in the first place because it was the exchanging of goods and services (no money involved)

Would you like a bag of carrots this month Mr tax man and a bag of patatos next month

you may wish to have a look at a thread i made not so long ago on my barter plans
Old Silver coins; whats there value plz - Page 2 - Silver - The Silver Forum

That's just an easy to understand summary someone's written. 

Google HMRC and how barter is taxed to find HMRC's pages.

I realise you're trolling but like all transactions barter and payments in kind are potentially subject to tax. HMRC will only accept payments in sterling.


From the thread you linked; this is nonsense and sounds as I suspected, planned tax evasion and other shenanigans. This is why you want anonymous accounts:

"So the pan is to run 2 different buissness. one would be a bullion dealer, YES THATS RIGHT! im going to be a bullion dealer, where I sell my coins to people that may wish to spend then on my other secret squirrel buissness that operates with out the appropriate licence to sell what I propose to sell as there is no act of sale hear taking place, it is a means of barter."

Desmond_Hume

The tinfoil hat is sitting a little to snug on the head,  me thinks. 

GringoGoesToVagas

wmb194 said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

wmb194 said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

jimjames said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

gary1312 said:

Don't get me wrong - I'm with you in some ways. I don't like banks either, which is why I conduct the majority of my financial affairs through mutual organisations, membership of which make me a part-owner. Current accounts with Nationwide BS and Co-op Bank, savings with other building societies and my local credit union.

So I have been told that if the banks crash you will loose your money, but you wont loose your money in the building societys 

gary1312 said:

 I myself would also much rather receive my pay, currently mandated monthly to my building society account, in a weekly cash pay packet but this is 2025 and no longer how the world works -

I had high hopes of getting out of the system 100%. With no tax to pay or declair, no licences for anything as the trade would be a barter system based upon silver coins. But that idea will have to weight a while now

Just because you're using cash doesn't mean there is no tax to pay. Good luck telling HMRC that you're accepting cash so that you don't need to pay income tax or VAT. Whatever business software you need (or even the phone/computer that you're posting these on) will need licences and payment

I was refering to barter in the form of silver coins for that one

I get that you're a troll but for other people's interest, you assign a fair market value to the barter and declare that as income. You also need to consider VAT. Silver will be trivially easy because its market value on any particular day is easy to determine.

 https://startups.co.uk/tax/how-is-tax-applied-to-bartering/

Who the hell is Starup? what legal bases do they have for charging tax on barter
Oh let me guess they dont! they are part of the "Big Bully Boy Six" scarmoungusing morons to part with money they dont have or ever had in the first place because it was the exchanging of goods and services (no money involved)

Would you like a bag of carrots this month Mr tax man and a bag of patatos next month

you may wish to have a look at a thread i made not so long ago on my barter plans
Old Silver coins; whats there value plz - Page 2 - Silver - The Silver Forum

That's just an easy to understand summary someone's written. 

Google HMRC and how barter is taxed to find HMRC's pages.

Yer yer yer your all the same "just google it". Meaning we have no evidance that such an act is taking place.
Well You make the presumptions sir, you have to prove it; not me; Because in this countory we are inocent until proven guilty. Though I know how you lot like to twist this one around in favour of your masters the Big6. In preporation for what they have to come for us in the new world

wmb194 said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

wmb194 said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

jimjames said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

gary1312 said:

Don't get me wrong - I'm with you in some ways. I don't like banks either, which is why I conduct the majority of my financial affairs through mutual organisations, membership of which make me a part-owner. Current accounts with Nationwide BS and Co-op Bank, savings with other building societies and my local credit union.

So I have been told that if the banks crash you will loose your money, but you wont loose your money in the building societys 

gary1312 said:

 I myself would also much rather receive my pay, currently mandated monthly to my building society account, in a weekly cash pay packet but this is 2025 and no longer how the world works -

I had high hopes of getting out of the system 100%. With no tax to pay or declair, no licences for anything as the trade would be a barter system based upon silver coins. But that idea will have to weight a while now

Just because you're using cash doesn't mean there is no tax to pay. Good luck telling HMRC that you're accepting cash so that you don't need to pay income tax or VAT. Whatever business software you need (or even the phone/computer that you're posting these on) will need licences and payment

I was refering to barter in the form of silver coins for that one

I get that you're a troll but for other people's interest, you assign a fair market value to the barter and declare that as income. You also need to consider VAT. Silver will be trivially easy because its market value on any particular day is easy to determine.

 https://startups.co.uk/tax/how-is-tax-applied-to-bartering/

Who the hell is Starup? what legal bases do they have for charging tax on barter
Oh let me guess they dont! they are part of the "Big Bully Boy Six" scarmoungusing morons to part with money they dont have or ever had in the first place because it was the exchanging of goods and services (no money involved)

Would you like a bag of carrots this month Mr tax man and a bag of patatos next month

you may wish to have a look at a thread i made not so long ago on my barter plans
Old Silver coins; whats there value plz - Page 2 - Silver - The Silver Forum

That's just an easy to understand summary someone's written. 

Google HMRC and how barter is taxed to find HMRC's pages.

I realise you're trolling but like all transactions barter and payments in kind are potentially subject to tax. HMRC will only accept payments in sterling.

But that person dose not trade in pounds sterling sir; that person trades in barter and barter only and has no pounds sterling. How are you going to get blood out of a stone I ask?

wmb194 said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

wmb194 said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

jimjames said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

gary1312 said:

Don't get me wrong - I'm with you in some ways. I don't like banks either, which is why I conduct the majority of my financial affairs through mutual organisations, membership of which make me a part-owner. Current accounts with Nationwide BS and Co-op Bank, savings with other building societies and my local credit union.

So I have been told that if the banks crash you will loose your money, but you wont loose your money in the building societys 

gary1312 said:

 I myself would also much rather receive my pay, currently mandated monthly to my building society account, in a weekly cash pay packet but this is 2025 and no longer how the world works -

I had high hopes of getting out of the system 100%. With no tax to pay or declair, no licences for anything as the trade would be a barter system based upon silver coins. But that idea will have to weight a while now

Just because you're using cash doesn't mean there is no tax to pay. Good luck telling HMRC that you're accepting cash so that you don't need to pay income tax or VAT. Whatever business software you need (or even the phone/computer that you're posting these on) will need licences and payment

I was refering to barter in the form of silver coins for that one

I get that you're a troll but for other people's interest, you assign a fair market value to the barter and declare that as income. You also need to consider VAT. Silver will be trivially easy because its market value on any particular day is easy to determine.

 https://startups.co.uk/tax/how-is-tax-applied-to-bartering/

Who the hell is Starup? what legal bases do they have for charging tax on barter
Oh let me guess they dont! they are part of the "Big Bully Boy Six" scarmoungusing morons to part with money they dont have or ever had in the first place because it was the exchanging of goods and services (no money involved)

Would you like a bag of carrots this month Mr tax man and a bag of patatos next month

you may wish to have a look at a thread i made not so long ago on my barter plans
Old Silver coins; whats there value plz - Page 2 - Silver - The Silver Forum

"So the pan is to run 2 different buissness. one would be a bullion dealer, YES THATS RIGHT! im going to be a bullion dealer, where I sell my coins to people that may wish to spend then on my other secret squirrel buissness that operates with out the appropriate licence to sell what I propose to sell as there is no act of sale hear taking place, it is a means of barter."

Thats right good read, I'll add a thanks to your post for it

born_again

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said:

born_again said:

GringoGoesToVagas said Your carbon credit score/ social credit score on what you can and can not purchase

You are aware that Credit score has nothing to do with banks. It is a made up figure by the Credit Reference Agencies.
Which is never seen by the banks. 🤣

You dont understand!
Im not talking about a "Credit Score". I am talking about a "Social Credit score"

Do you live in China?
As UK does not have anything like this..

Is this from the same people that tell you if a bank crashes you will lose everything?

Yes it is in China but planned for hear in the near future

So banks have never crashed and no one has lost anything ever have they?

Did any account holder lose anything in the 2008 bank bailouts?

What about Grease?

Assuming you have spelt it wrong.
They are not in the UK.

Guess you have not looked at the link re FSCS

Is that because it's not in line with your remit?

FSCS protects customers when authorised financial services firms fail. You could be entitled to compensation of up to £85000. Discover how we can help you.

Hah, the term "you could be" you must think we are all stupid making laws up like that

Believe what you want then. 

Clearly you do not want to believe what is not in line with your line of thinking.

Over three financial years (2021-24), the FSCS declared 11 credit unions and one small bank in default. The FSCS paid compensation of about £10 million in relation to deposit claims over those three years – that represents a tiny proportion of the total deposits held in the UK.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/explainers/what-is-the-financial-services-compensation-scheme

I guess that will not be good enough for you...