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'Chargeable event' on a Distribution bond and the tax liability from it?

TUVOK
TUVOK Posts: 537 Forumite
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I have held a Clerical Medical Distribution Bond since about 2001. I have taken several with drawls from the bond and believed that they were 'chargeable events' incurring no tax liability, C/Medical never indicated that they were in my discussions with them about taking a with drawl.
However last year I requested a with drawl and after the with drawl they sent literature indicating that I was liable to pay tax on it.
I am in the process of completing my HMRC self assessment return for the year 2022-23 so need to clarify the taxation query on the with drawl.

Can any one help please/ 
I'm also not sure if I have posted on the correct forum section?

Thanks in advance for any help etc that members can provide.

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  • Jeremy535897
    Jeremy535897 Posts: 10,771 Forumite
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    It may be that your previous withdrawals attracted no liability because they were too small (5% or less). You should have received a chargeable event certificate describing the amount chargeable to tax. Tax will only be payable if you have a higher rate tax liability after adding the gain to your income (subject to top slicing relief). 
  • TUVOK
    TUVOK Posts: 537 Forumite
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    Thank you for your reply.
    I believe that you are correct in that in previous years I asked specifically to C/Medical to make the payment below any amount which would incur taxation.
    I have has a terrible time in any dealings with Clerical Medical in the last few years, almost impossible to speak to any one and I have been awarded a fairly large payment from them for their shocking bad service.
    I have not proceeded yet this year in asking for a with drawl, I will have to I believe try to contact them in order to try to ascertain the amount that I can withdraw tax free? or is it that any amount that I withdraw liable to taxation?
    Any help on this would be most welcomed, thank you.
  • Jeremy535897
    Jeremy535897 Posts: 10,771 Forumite
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    edited 3 July 2023 at 11:27AM
    You will have to ask them whether there is any further amount you can withdraw tax free. You may have some of the 5% annual withdrawal limit left. Remember that the basic rate of tax on any excess withdrawal is treated as paid, so it would only be if you are or become a higher rate taxpayer that there would be tax to pay.
  • TUVOK
    TUVOK Posts: 537 Forumite
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    I have just contacted Clerical Medical and after explaining that my Distribution bond was taken out in 2001 and the amount of £20K invested, I was told that I should not have paid tax on my with drawl of £1000-00, being 5% or less of the initial investment.

    On informing the contact that Clerical Medical had sent me documentation stating that I should disclose a taxation gain on my self assessment return,  I was then informed that they will investigate and get back to me inside 10 working days.

    A bit confusing, hopefully I will get clarification very soon in order that I enter the correct details on my self assessment return and complete it.
  • Jeremy535897
    Jeremy535897 Posts: 10,771 Forumite
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    You won't need to enter anything if they confirm that there is no chargeable event. Unfortunately if they have already informed HMRC that there is a chargeable event, that could be a nuisance when you don't disclose one. Be sure to raise this issue with C&M.
  • TUVOK
    TUVOK Posts: 537 Forumite
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    Yes, thank you, I can well see your point.
    One thing that I have tried to avoid is any reason for HMRC to query my return, this has always been the case, so yes I will need to bring that up if they correct their previous reply that I have exceeded the 5% in a with drawl.
    Thank you for this reply.
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