'Class 2 National Insurance Reference Number' to Pay Voluntary Contributions?

So now that I've decided to pay all my shortfall years, it seems I need this number in order to do so -- but HMRC didn't provide it in their letter telling me I'm eligible for Class 2 contributions, and detailing how much I need to pay for each year.  When I try to sign in to the payment portal, it says: 'This is 18 digits, like 113330017829614133. You'll find it on the payslip or the payment request sent to you by HMRC.'

Any clues?

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  • calcotti
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    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • bostonerimus
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    edited 24 August 2022 at 3:39PM
    This just nudged me into making my 2021/22 NI contribution. The benefit of being overseas is that your reference number is just your NI number plus "IC" and your surname and initial...I say just, but the resulting string can get pretty long. Anyway as I have the HMRC account info saved on my online bank account, paying them by wire transfer is trivial.
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  • Cortiz
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    This just nudged me into making my 2021/22 NI contribution. The benefit of being overseas is that your reference number is just your NI number plus "IC" and your surname and initial...I say just, but the resulting string can get pretty long. Anyway as I have the HMRC account info saved on my online bank account, paying them by wire transfer is trivial.

    That comes up to 19 digits for me, and they specify 18.  Guess I should phone them....
  • bostonerimus
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    Cortiz said:
    This just nudged me into making my 2021/22 NI contribution. The benefit of being overseas is that your reference number is just your NI number plus "IC" and your surname and initial...I say just, but the resulting string can get pretty long. Anyway as I have the HMRC account info saved on my online bank account, paying them by wire transfer is trivial.

    That comes up to 19 digits for me, and they specify 18.  Guess I should phone them....
    Overseas folks have the luxury of variable reference number lengths that are a mix of letters and numbers. 
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  • Cortiz
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    @bostonerimus - I'm trying to pay with the 18-digit number (I called and the confirmed what you said - NI #, IC, surname, first initial) - but it won't accept it. I keep getting this message:



    I've tried many times now ensuring that I entered it correctly. So now I'm suddenly wondering if I'm even supposed to go through the HMRC portal, or do I just initiate the payment from my bank's website? I'm abroad and don't fancy staying up until 2am to phone them yet again...!
  • SusieT
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    Cortiz said:
    @bostonerimus - I'm trying to pay with the 18-digit number (I called and the confirmed what you said - NI #, IC, surname, first initial) - but it won't accept it. I keep getting this message:



    I've tried many times now ensuring that I entered it correctly. So now I'm suddenly wondering if I'm even supposed to go through the HMRC portal, or do I just initiate the payment from my bank's website? I'm abroad and don't fancy staying up until 2am to phone them yet again...!
    It may be easier to pay directly from your bank account, it could be that the pay through the website is not set up for that reference, and you need to have a letter from HMRC with the reference number on it
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