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Would you buy a mazda 2

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I'm thinking about going to look at two mazda 2 but are they good cars as I'm a bit put off that it has stop start and keyless entry.

These are the cars.

https://www.mazdausedcarlocator.co.uk/cars/14836645-mazda-mazda2-1.5-75-se-5dr/

https://www.mazdausedcarlocator.co.uk/cars/14797048-mazda-mazda2-1.5-75-se-l-5dr/
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  • My other half has one, no idea why you wouldn't like stop start as it's good for fuel saving, besides which, it only activates if you put it in neutral and leave clutch up. You quickly learn to anticipate junctions and it takes a second at most to put clutch down (starts engine) and put in gear and go.

    Keyless up to you, I think it's fantastic, makes life so much more convenient to not have to faff around with finding keys just to open the boot etc
  • edited 22 July 2022 at 12:08PM
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    edited 22 July 2022 at 12:08PM
    The styling is a bit Marmite and the interiors can be a bit dull and glummy but they tend to be well engineered and screwed together cars.

    Mazda didn't follow the rest of the manufacturers with turboing downsized engines but worked away quietly on improving what we now consider larger, normally aspirated engines under the guise of Skyactiv.

    They used some techniques like increasing compression and thermal efficiency to clean up and improve their engines, but cleverly engineered them so they didn't suffer from problems created by doing that, like using clever manifolds, piston cavities and altering fuel injection and combustion duration to reduce engine knock.

    Rather that expanding on the parts used (that wear and break) they just used engineering to achieve their goal which tends to be more reliable.

    This means they use 1.5 and 2.0 litre engines but the power is rather modest but still comparable to small, downsized turbos, just without the extra fuss of turbos and the likes.

    I had a CX3 on lease for a while, that's just a jacked up 2 from around the same time as the ones you have linked to. It wasn't my choice but I was happy enough.
    It felt a bit stodgy until you reached the torque at around 4000 rpm but was incredibly refined, quiet and smooth, it also didn't miss a beat.

    I also wouldn't worry about stop start and keyless entry too much.
    Pretty much every car comes with stop start these days, you can turn it off but it resets when you reset the ignition.
    Same goes for Keyless entry, cars have had remote central locking for years which transmit a similar signal, if a car thief wants your car, a metal key isn't going to stop them.


  • UncleZenUncleZen Forumite
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    I'd say they are better than most cars in that segment. And IMO better than buying anything French or German. Goudy's description is bang-on.
  • imalwaystiredimalwaystired Forumite
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    My other half has one, no idea why you wouldn't like stop start as it's good for fuel saving, besides which, it only activates if you put it in neutral and leave clutch up. You quickly learn to anticipate junctions and it takes a second at most to put clutch down (starts engine) and put in gear and go.

    Keyless up to you, I think it's fantastic, makes life so much more convenient to not have to faff around with finding keys just to open the boot etc
    On my way to work there's one roundabout that gets very busy so I don't think start stop is a good idea as I don't like holding my clutch down for a long time. I know someone who had a car stolen that had keyless entry and they was told by the police not to buy one again as they are easier to steal.
  • edited 22 July 2022 at 7:42PM
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    edited 22 July 2022 at 7:42PM
    We considered one as they are solidly built and have decent interiors, but the 75 bhp model was underwhelming.

    90 is available, but choice was limited (and our local Mazda dealer is part of a chain I would never buy from) and in the end a Yaris 1.5 was a better option.

    No stop start or keyless start, but if it did I wouldn't have an issue with either.
  • Car_54Car_54 Forumite
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    My other half has one, no idea why you wouldn't like stop start as it's good for fuel saving, besides which, it only activates if you put it in neutral and leave clutch up. You quickly learn to anticipate junctions and it takes a second at most to put clutch down (starts engine) and put in gear and go.

    Keyless up to you, I think it's fantastic, makes life so much more convenient to not have to faff around with finding keys just to open the boot etc
    On my way to work there's one roundabout that gets very busy so I don't think start stop is a good idea as I don't like holding my clutch down for a long time. I know someone who had a car stolen that had keyless entry and they was told by the police not to buy one again as they are easier to steal.
    My last 3-4 cars have all had stop-start, and I can't remember a single problem with quick take-off. After a day or two you just forget about it.
    As for security, I haven't had one stolen. But even if it was a problem, is a Mazda 2 really a popular target?
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    edited 23 July 2022 at 9:42PM
    My other half has one, no idea why you wouldn't like stop start as it's good for fuel saving, besides which, it only activates if you put it in neutral and leave clutch up. You quickly learn to anticipate junctions and it takes a second at most to put clutch down (starts engine) and put in gear and go.

    Keyless up to you, I think it's fantastic, makes life so much more convenient to not have to faff around with finding keys just to open the boot etc
    On my way to work there's one roundabout that gets very busy so I don't think start stop is a good idea as I don't like holding my clutch down for a long time. I know someone who had a car stolen that had keyless entry and they was told by the police not to buy one again as they are easier to steal.

    1) As I clearly stated, on Mazdas the stop start is activated by putting the car in neutral and then releasing the clutch, the engine starts in under a second as you put the clutch down, as you can presumably anticipate when you are going to go, you can easily prepare, or simply don't leave the car in neutral with clutch up
    2) Anecdotes and vague messages from authority figures (the classic appeal to authority fallacy) are not good reasons for taking a stand on anything. You can easily block any wireless signal with a biscuit tin or security pouch. Most car thieves who want an easy car to steal will either break in or try and hook keys through your letter box, not buy expensive kit for decoding or copying keyless signals
  • chriswchrisw Forumite
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    You can usually turn start stop off by pressing a button on the console or dashboard. 

    Yes it's a pain having to do it each time the car is started, but virtually all newish petrol/diesel cars have it and it soon becomes second nature.


  • edited 24 July 2022 at 9:42AM
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    edited 24 July 2022 at 9:42AM
    I'm thinking about going to look at two mazda 2 but are they good cars as I'm a bit put off that it has stop start and keyless entry.

    These are the cars.

    https://www.mazdausedcarlocator.co.uk/cars/14836645-mazda-mazda2-1.5-75-se-5dr/

    https://www.mazdausedcarlocator.co.uk/cars/14797048-mazda-mazda2-1.5-75-se-l-5dr/
    I hate stop go and have turned it off on my car using Carista
    Keyless entry is convenient but a security concern
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  • edited 24 July 2022 at 1:11PM
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    edited 24 July 2022 at 1:11PM
    missile said:
    I'm thinking about going to look at two mazda 2 but are they good cars as I'm a bit put off that it has stop start and keyless entry.

    These are the cars.

    https://www.mazdausedcarlocator.co.uk/cars/14836645-mazda-mazda2-1.5-75-se-5dr/

    https://www.mazdausedcarlocator.co.uk/cars/14797048-mazda-mazda2-1.5-75-se-l-5dr/
    I hate stop go and have turned it off on my car using Carista
    Keyless entry is convenient but a security concern

    Your choice to lose the fuel saving benefits of an optional system (as it is in the 2)
    Sigh, no it isn't, the specialist kit that you'd need to use the relay theft needs to be within 5m of the fob to read it and is easily stopped using basic security like a biscuit tin. A key that is say 6-7m from the door cannot be read, a key in a secure pouch (available for a few pounds on ebay) cannot be read. A key like the one on the Fiesta or Merc A-class which sleeps when not moved for 40/120 seconds cannot be read (and the Merc fob lets you turn it off by a single button). An ultra wide band radio signal like the Discovery has which broadcasts loads of frequencies at once prevents thieves getting the signal
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