Inverter has died ' Options '

we have a 9 year old 16 panel 4kwh system paying 21p FIT , one large inverter in the attic.  facing SSE but shaded, it has stopped working, we have an extended warranty of sorts ( bad workmanship ) , but the insurers still arranged for an inspection. it has died.  the options.  1. replace like for like,   2. micro inverters on each panel ,  or can we cover a bank of panels ( say in 4's ) on small inverters.  is the info about inverters working at the lowest performing panel still correct or have they got smarter in the generation.  cost is a factor and anything over the get it working price really need to pay for the extra expense.   :) thanks in advance
Div 1 Play Off Winners 2007
CCC Play Off Winners 2010
«1

Replies

  • VerdigrisVerdigris Forumite
    1.7K Posts
    1,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    Forumite
    It is only really worth having micro-inverters if there are shading issues.

    It might be worth considering a hybrid inverter if you are contemplating having storage batteries at some point.
  • edited 14 March 2022 at 7:13PM
    ScrewdrivaScrewdriva Forumite
    746 Posts
    500 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    Forumite
    edited 14 March 2022 at 7:13PM
    What brand inverter was it? Recommend a Solar Edge HD Wave with Optimizers as the replacement if access is tricky. They are available with a 25 year warranty, which is what we went with. Avoid the Chinese brands if possible.
    -  10 x 400w LG BiFacial Panels + SE P505 Optimizers + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter. SE London (Zone 2). 
    -  40% of panels in an East/ West rooftop orientation.
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)
  • PetriixPetriix Forumite
    1.8K Posts
    Sixth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Forumite
    Verdigris said:
    It is only really worth having micro-inverters if there are shading issues.

    It might be worth considering a hybrid inverter if you are contemplating having storage batteries at some point.
    Definitely don't go hybrid for a FIT system. It becomes far too complicated for charging the battery from the grid and jeopardises the FIT payments.
  • SolarchaserSolarchaser Forumite
    1.6K Posts
    1,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    Forumite
    What kind of inverter was it?
    Might be repairable. 

    I have a couple of single string sma 3300s which are surplus to requirements 
    West central Scotland
    4kw sse since 2014 and 6.6kw wsw / ene split since 2019
    24kwh leaf, 75Kwh Tesla and Lux 3600 with 20Kwh useable storage
  • 2nd_time_buyer2nd_time_buyer Forumite
    698 Posts
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Forumite
    What brand inverter was it? Recommend a Solar Edge HD Wave with Optimizers as the replacement if access is tricky. They are available with a 25 year warranty, which is what we went with. Avoid the Chinese brands if possible.
    I have a Solar Edge HD wave too. So far it has done what I want it is meant too. 

    If I was buying again, I would go for Tigo optimisers and a hybrid inverter, as it is less restrictive and cheaper.

    With solaredge you either need to go with an AC couple battery or their own (expensive) DC coupled battery. You can put Tigo optimisers on only the panels that have shading issues and you can use any brand of inverter.

    Like I say, I am happy enough with the Solaredge, I just don't like being tied to one supplier. A bit like Apple Vs Android.
  • edited 15 March 2022 at 12:08PM
    bordercarsbordercars Forumite
    1.4K Posts
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Forumite
    edited 15 March 2022 at 12:08PM
    Verdigris said:
    It is only really worth having micro-inverters if there are shading issues.

    It might be worth considering a hybrid inverter if you are contemplating having storage batteries at some point.
    from what ive read I thought the MI's were the best solution to shading or have I misread. 

    aurora inverter

    looked online and some suggest dry solder joints which is next step. 

    Div 1 Play Off Winners 2007
    CCC Play Off Winners 2010
  • bordercarsbordercars Forumite
    1.4K Posts
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Forumite
    • Whilst this makes them a more expensive option, they can be a better choice if shading is a problem on site.

    • This is because a string inverter system can only perform as well as its lowest-performing panel.

    • So if shade impacts one panel’s performance, every other panel operates at the same reduced capacity.

    Div 1 Play Off Winners 2007
    CCC Play Off Winners 2010
  • SolarchaserSolarchaser Forumite
    1.6K Posts
    1,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    Forumite
    If its e031 its almost always dry solder joints, but be aware it can have caused damage to the tracks as well, and can have taken out the relays.
    All very cheap to fix, amd they arent bad to disassemble, I bought relays for I think £5 each and have fixed 2 of these inverters which I now use in my garage.

    So if you are not confident fixing, gimme a shout.
    West central Scotland
    4kw sse since 2014 and 6.6kw wsw / ene split since 2019
    24kwh leaf, 75Kwh Tesla and Lux 3600 with 20Kwh useable storage
  • bordercarsbordercars Forumite
    1.4K Posts
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Forumite
    If its e031 its almost always dry solder joints, but be aware it can have caused damage to the tracks as well, and can have taken out the relays.
    All very cheap to fix, amd they arent bad to disassemble, I bought relays for I think £5 each and have fixed 2 of these inverters which I now use in my garage.

    So if you are not confident fixing, gimme a shout.
    Yes code E031.  I will have a read on how to disconnect and get the box into the shed. Will probably be back asking many questions on the procedure. 

    Div 1 Play Off Winners 2007
    CCC Play Off Winners 2010
  • bordercarsbordercars Forumite
    1.4K Posts
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Forumite
    If its e031 its almost always dry solder joints, but be aware it can have caused damage to the tracks as well, and can have taken out the relays.
    All very cheap to fix, amd they arent bad to disassemble, I bought relays for I think £5 each and have fixed 2 of these inverters which I now use in my garage.

    So if you are not confident fixing, gimme a shout.
    one relay slightly black and the popped solder on rear of pcb. being a typical northern lad I only purchased one and got a friend in the organ industry who works on boards a fair bit to swap out. he said the other joints all looked good. 
    put back together this morning and switched on. started ok and went through sequence but returns an error now of E013, Ive had a read and it seems the strings ( rows of panels ? ) will be set in parallel !  the manual talks of jumpers but the inputs are exactly as removed following the usual videos of numbering 7,8,9 & 0 .. as the unit has been completely disconnected will it mean entering all the settings again ? .  I suppose there could still be a relay fault but need it to go past first stage before panel will indicate.  
    Div 1 Play Off Winners 2007
    CCC Play Off Winners 2010
Sign In or Register to comment.
Latest MSE News and Guides

Did you know there's an MSE app?

It's free & available on iOS & Android

MSE App

Regifting: good idea or not?

Add your two cents to the discussion

MSE Forum

Energy Price Guarantee calculator

How much you'll likely pay from April

MSE Tools