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Impact of Severance on a DB pension and pensions freedoms

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Please can you offer advise-
I will be offered Severance/ Voluntary Redundancy-shortly After long service and as I understand it because of my age they will start paying my pension immediately without reduction. About £5k .Does that mean I will lose the option to ask for a CETV and have my own pension pot, as i was hoping to do this to plug the gap until State Pension with about £1K per month, instead of £500 per  month.  Dont really want to get into others opinions on this just would like to know if I will lose the option to do this and if there is any way i can retain this option by Deferring or doing Transfer before i get my Severence notice or am i worrying about nothing. Done a state pension forecast.  I am a secret lurker and a big fan of you all
21k savings no debt

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  • otb666
    otb666 Posts: 842 Forumite
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    I am 55 in June 21  and will be offered Severence anytime from now do not know
    when though
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  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,628 Forumite
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    Have you checked your options with the Administrator of the scheme?
  • otb666
    otb666 Posts: 842 Forumite
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    Its only just been announced so i have emailed HR pension advisor but i do find it hard to ask what i want and make myself clear Also because of this i dont always get a clear accurate answer.  I trust you lot more and i know you are all very knowlegeable as been reading your posts and advise for so long

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  • otb666
    otb666 Posts: 842 Forumite
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    i am honoured you read my post and quite star struck now
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  • otb666
    otb666 Posts: 842 Forumite
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    Do you think i am worrying bout nothing its ESPS scheme

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  • otb666
    otb666 Posts: 842 Forumite
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    I know its your opinion only but I would value it

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  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,628 Forumite
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    ESPS scheme

    https://www.unitedutilities.com/globalassets/z_corporate-site/careers-pdfs/esps-members-guide.acc19.pdf

    Above is the link to the scheme guide.

    In particular, see page 9 and page 12.

    If you ring TPAS https://www.pensionsadvisoryservice.org.uk/ you might discuss the matter.

    Or are you a member of a union?  You might find help there.

  • Brynsam
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    edited 16 October 2020 at 2:41PM
    otb666 said:
    Please can you offer advise-
    I will be offered Severance/ Voluntary Redundancy-shortly After long service and as I understand it because of my age they will start paying my pension immediately without reduction. About £5k .Does that mean I will lose the option to ask for a CETV and have my own pension pot,
    Yes. You can't transfer once a DB pension is in payment.

    After severance, you could remain a deferred pensioner rather than taking your pension. As a  deferred member, you would be eligible for a CETV. Think hard, though. It's a big financial advantage not to have a reduction for early payment (which, incidentally, would NOT normally be reflected in a CETV).

    If you take maximum tax free cash at the point you start your pension, would that help bridge the gap?
  • otb666
    otb666 Posts: 842 Forumite
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     , i think i am going to leave it as it stands and take pension as normal before 63 without reduction good option in severence pakage- transfer value quote was 168k or 5kpa 15k lump sum now.  i dont know what inpact the new index linking will have but better to have some index linking
    Can i ask -as 1105 pa is pre 97 and post 97 3625 if it went to ppf i would only get 3625 cpi index linking pre and post 63yrs old is that right?

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  • otb666
    otb666 Posts: 842 Forumite
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    by the way i was advised by HR once date provide for severence i would not be able to defer i would have to arrange transfer in 3 months

    21k savings no debt
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