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7.3 kW Bi Facial Rooftop Panels: ~7 year ROI: Fact OR fiction?

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  • Martyn1981
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    Screwdriva wrote: »
    And finally, Bulb Energy has confirmed that I am now on their SEG tariff. They're trying to raise an export MPAN for my smart meter - no idea what that means!?!

    Graph below:
    https://imgur.com/a/BWoGnPV

    Hiya. Your leccy supply will be identified by a unique MPAN (Meter Point Administration Number), so effectively they are matching your export to you and that specific property/supply.

    When you switch leccy and gas, this is how your accounts are identified.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • Screwdriva
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    Thanks Marty!

    Finally hit the double O today. 8.47 kW, a new high for the system, in a nice linear spread of power lasting till 4:15pm.

    https://imgur.com/a/l7ddTjm
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • Hexane
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    Screwdriva wrote: »
    8.47 kW, a new high for the system
    That sounds great, but you do mean kWh not kW!
    7.25 kWp PV system (4.1kW WSW & 3.15kW ENE), Solis inverter, myenergi eddi & harvi for energy diversion to immersion heater. myenergi hub for Virtual Power Plant demand-side response trial.
  • Screwdriva
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    First full month complete. January netted 96.55 kWh. PGIS forecasted 154 kWh for my location so quite a substantial miss.
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • joefizz
    joefizz Posts: 676 Forumite
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    Screwdriva wrote: »
    First full month complete. January netted 96.55 kWh. PGIS forecasted 154 kWh for my location so quite a substantial miss.


    Indeed. The only data that matters is your own data!
  • Screwdriva
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    edited 2 February 2020 at 3:59PM
    Our first full use utility bill from Bulb Energy arrived yesterday coving the period from 22nd December to 1st of Feb (39 days). Some pretty important and somewhat surprising numbers:

    Electricity used: 373 kWh @ £12.39p per kWh (total cost is £56.5 all inclusive)
    Electricity generated from 22/12/19 -31/1/20: 120.5 kWh, which means that we consumed an additional 45.5 kWh or £5.5 of the power we generated.
    Electricity exported to the grid: 75 kWh @ 5.38p per kWh (total earnings of £4)
    Gas used: 2651 kWh @ 3.5p per kWh (total cost is £105 all inclusive!!)

    Consumption of solar energy appears to be 40% with 60% exported. Also, we've never paid anywhere close to this much for gas before but we do use it for hot water, heating (HIVE temperature set at 16.5 degrees) and cooking in the new home. A couple questions come to mind:

    1) Does the above look normal for a 3 bedroom semi detached? If so, the ROI on this system took a depressing spiral.
    2) Would an iBoost make financial sense given the above. We're willing to reconsider if so.
    3) Anything else proven that we can try to bring our consumption down? We've already done the following:

    - Appliances like the dishwasher and washing machine run only during peak solar hours, and the fridge is set to economy mode.
    - DC fans installed for circulation.
    - LED lights everywhere
    - Windows are new and double glazed. Leak free save for one.
    - New 250L Megaflo Hot Water Tank
    - HIVE Thermostat now set to heat water mornings only (vs. mornings + evenings in January)

    Thanks in advance!
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • ABrass
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    It should be pretty much the worst case for both electricity and gas. Little sunlight and cold weather. The solar system in particular should only get better and the hours of use will also increase massively.

    For gas it depends mostly on insulation. I've been in my house for a year and I'm still finding holes to seal up to reduce drafts.
    8kW (4kW WNW, 4kW SSE) 6kW inverter. 6.5kWh battery.
  • Screwdriva
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    Still recovering from my last post. Today was our 2nd best day ever despite the cloudy afternoon. 8kWh on the dot.
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • Screwdriva
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    New high for the bifacial system yesterday. 9.44 kWh. Very confident it could have hit 10kWh if clouds hadn't shown up afternoon.

    Detailed report here.
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
  • 1961Nick
    1961Nick Posts: 2,107 Forumite
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    edited 7 February 2020 at 11:13PM
    New high for the bifacial system yesterday. 9.44 kWh. Very confident it could have hit 10kWh if clouds hadn't shown up afternoon.

    Detailed report here.

     It was a perfect cloudless day up here ...


    4kWp (black/black) - Sofar Inverter - SSE(141°) - 30° pitch - North Lincs
    Installed June 2013 - PVGIS = 3400
    Sofar ME3000SP Inverter & 5 x Pylontech US2000B Plus & 3 x US2000C Batteries - 19.2kWh
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