We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

MSE News: 'I couldn't file my tax return because my wife was seeing aliens'

Options
Former_MSE_Megan_F
Former_MSE_Megan_F Posts: 418 Forumite
Newshound!
edited 18 January 2018 at 10:17AM in Cutting tax
Aliens, rabbits and spilt coffee were among the most unbelievable excuses for late tax returns and expenses given to HMRC...
Read the full story:
''I couldn't file my tax return because my wife was seeing aliens'''
OfficialStamp.gif
Click reply below to discuss. If you haven’t already, join the forum to reply.
Read the latest MSE News
Flag up a news story: news@moneysavingexpert.com
Get the Free Martin's Money Tips E-mail

Comments

  • One-Eye
    One-Eye Posts: 70,044 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    "I couldn’t file my return on time as my wife has been seeing aliens and won’t let me in the house."

    I thought we were all in favour of financial institutions having more consideration for those suffering mental health problems, but no - let's have a good laugh at them instead.

    "I couldn’t file my return on time as I suffered a breakdown and was admitted to the mental health ward at my local hospital" :rotfl:

    PS. If the aliens were paying the family I bet the taxman would want his share.
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The tax payer whose wife was seeing aliens should consider appealing. Mental health issues of both the tax payer and close family members are legitimate reasons for delay, if genuine. On appeal people have had many years worth of penalties removed. For example, Hindocha v HMR&C [2017] UKFTT 0373 (TC):

    "the Revenue accepted that serious mental illness could be enough to excuse lateness but it went on to argue that where the illness was an ongoing condition the taxpayer should make arrangements for sending in their tax return on time. The Tribunal decided that the taxpayer had suffered from a serious mental illness which had been ongoing for four years in the form of depression, anxiety and panic attacks. And it went on to decide that it had affected the taxpayer in such a way that he had been unable to arrange for somebody else to get his returns in for him. He had found it impossible to get his menial day to day activities sorted, let alone his finances and taxes. He won his appeal and penalties totalling nearly £1,500 were quashed."

    HMRC can't reject a return and charge penalties just because it's incomplete, see Pidgeon v HM Revenue & Customs [2017] UKFTT 0438 (TC). Get in any partial return before the deadline and you're safe. But do try to help HMRC by saying which numbers are estimated.

    If you can't pay for reasons out of your control HMRC can't levy penalties, see Pearson v HMRC [2017] UKFTT 0780 (TC): "Was the payment late due to an insufficiency of funds and, if so, did that insufficiency arise by reason of events which were outside his control? If the answer was 'yes' to each then Mr Pearson would have a reasonable excuse".

    HMRC can't use a computer to decide to fine you for being late, a human has to decide, per Khan Properties Ltd v Commissioners for HMR&C [2017] UKFTT 0830 (TC). So give your excuse and make HMRC work for the penalty money.

    Breaking Law seems like an interesting resource.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 244K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.9K Life & Family
  • 257.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.