What's the plan Stan?

Pyxis

lovinituk wrote: »

I'm genuinely sorry to hear that but it was not an excuse to act like a tw*t.

Well, I think it can be, because a serious worry can severely lower one's tolerance level.
I think we've all been guilty of snapping at someone when we've got a headache or just realised we've gone overdrawn, so it must be much worse when the worry is more serious., don't you think?,
Just a thought, anyway. :A

lovinituk

Pyxis wrote: »

Well, I think it can be, because a serious worry can severely lower one's tolerance level.
I think we've all been guilty of snapping at someone when we've got a headache or just realised we've gone overdrawn, so it must be much worse when the worry is more serious., don't you think?,
Just a thought, anyway. :A

Sadly we're not psychic. Perhaps we could have been more understanding if we had known sooner.

CLAPTON

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

I do not hate the institutions, just some of the things they have done both to our country and others. If taking back control means more wars, more attacks on the poor and more environmental destruction then yes I do not want it.

There are many on the left that hate UK institution and hate UK voters and so would prefer to be ruled by EU commission.
But I agree that the way the government has increased the minimum wage to £9 will do a lot of harm to the poorest.

Herzlos

mwpt wrote: »

What is a PPR and how does one know who is PPRd?

Posting Privileges Removed. It'll say so under their name.

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wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

There are many on the left that hate UK institution and hate UK voters and so would prefer to be ruled by EU commission.

You're having a strawman argument with yourself now.

We've heard plenty about the IRA, the native born and democracy. It must be about time to dust off your Flower of Scotland routine.

mwpt

MrsGenerali wrote: »

PPR means Posting Privileges Removed. You can see PPR just below my husband's username on the left.

I don't see it but thanks for the info. Sorry to hear about the health issues.

chucknorris

wotsthat wrote: »

People who don't know why they voted leave and didn't have the vaguest clue what might be planned really don't like being called idiots. Maybe he should've been nicer about it - I prefer poorly educated and misinformed.

I like the argument that the 'poorly educated' should have been presented with a plan by nanny because they were too stupid to think about what a leave vote meant.

I tend to substitute 'fool' for 'idiot', I think it conveys more or less the same message but slightly less aggressively. But I can't exactly start lecturing Gen on forum etiquette, that would be very 'foolish' of me. Most of the time he is the gentleman and I am a bull in the china shop.

Wednesday2000

Pyxis wrote: »

Just to say, he's just had a really bad shock about his health.

I'm sorry to read that, I think he makes a lot of well thought out posts on MSE so I hope he will be back soon.

Crashy_Time

chucknorris wrote: »

I'm not sure who's plan you are talking about, but if it was up to me I would go for this:

- Stay in the single market (great, this is key)
- Carry on paying fees to Europe (not so great, as we have less influence)
- Have more say in our own affairs (doesn't bother me so much, but it will probably pacify a few angry people)
- Agree to free movement of labour (probably a necessary trade off to stay in the single market)

So not that much change, but we would have went through a load of hassle just to be a bit worse off than we were.

We voted to leave though, not re-negotiate terms. Of course we will have to re-negotiate our relationship to the EZ at some point, but on our terms though, that was the point of the vote?