What's the plan Stan?

chucknorris

Crashy_Time wrote: »

We voted to leave though, not re-negotiate terms. Of course we will have to re-negotiate our relationship to the EZ at some point, but on our terms though, that was the point of the vote?

In my opinion there wasn't a lot of point in phrasing the referendum the way that it was, because we are much better off being in the single market, and it is very unlikely that we could have that without also having freedom of movement. Perhaps the referendum question should have been phrased differently, something along the lines of:

Select two of the following, as 'first' and second 'choice'

1. Remain in the EU
2. Leave EU but opt for EAA membership
3. Leave EU and the single market

But maybe they didn't want to give the public to do the daft thing and give them the opportunity to reject the single market. At least in the mess that we are in, the GOV is free to explore the options.

StevieJ

Crashy_Time wrote: »

We voted to leave though, not re-negotiate terms. Of course we will have to re-negotiate our relationship to the EZ at some point, but on our terms though, that was the point of the vote?

Our terms We will have to put you in charge of negotiations then.

HiToAll

I would have left it as Status Quo, a lot of old people like them.

Kohoutek

Crashy_Time wrote: »

We voted to leave though, not re-negotiate terms. Of course we will have to re-negotiate our relationship to the EZ at some point, but on our terms though, that was the point of the vote?

Unfortunately the point of the vote was a punt by Mr Cameron to unify the Tory party.

I'm no trade negotiator, but being outnumbered 27 to 1 (or 64 million to 444 million) doesn't sound like a strong bargaining position to me.

ruggedtoast

I cannot believe they have PPRd Generali. This Leave conspiracy has to stop!

chucknorris

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I cannot believe they have PPRd Generali. This Leave conspiracy has to stop!

Times are definitely changing, I've just thanked ruggedtoast!

setmefree2

MrsGenerali wrote: »

Okay. To be less inflammatory than my OH, what is the plan now? What's the plan?

We have a mandate to leave which is super awesome. Where does that mandate take us?

Oh my days! What has your OH been doing? I hope it's only a temporary PPR. Don't worry we will all lobby on your OH's behalf. Just point us the right direction.

There clearly is a plan. The Tories have been preparing for this for 23 years. A unit has been set up in Downing Street covering all things Brexit. There is of course a massive role for civil service. Cameron has been steering the ship steadily taking us to the Tory leadership election and has unified the Conservatives almost immediately. There is no sense of panic (except in the Labour Party but they have become almost irrelevant).

Tbh it must be very hard to get a sense of what is going on from Australia.

Here is an FT article on the Whitehall Brexit Unit - a few days old now.

Whitehall Brexit unit takes shape

The unit will not begin its work entirely from a standing start. It is understood that, in contrast to the Scottish referendum campaign, when no planning at all had been undertaken for the eventuality of a Yes vote, some civil service thinking had gone into what might happen in the event of a Brexit.

In today's news

Home Office High Flyer to Head Brexit Unit

Olly Robbins, a civil service high flyer responsible for policy on immigration and free movement at the Home Office, is expected to be appointed to head a new Whitehall Brexit unit.
The unit, whose full membership will be announced within days, will initially also include senior civil servants from the Cabinet Office, Treasury, the Foreign Office and the department for business, innovation and skills, as officials begin the mammoth task of extricating Britain from the EU, write Sarah Neville, Henry Mance and Jim Pickard.
Expertise from other departments, such as the department for environment, food and rural affairs, will be brought in as negotiations with Europe continue. When the unit is at full strength it may employ up to 30 people.
Insiders say that the officials seconded to the new department will not only look at the different scenarios for a future relationship between Britain, Europe and the rest of the world. It will also support David Cameron in his European dealings for the remaining weeks of his premiership.
Oliver Letwin, one of the prime minister’s most trusted “fixers”, will play what the Cabinet Office has described as “a facilitative role hearing views from across the government and outside on issues that need to be considered by the new unit”.
Insiders say that he is likely to move on from those duties once a new prime minister has been appointed, however.
His closeness to Mr Cameron was highlighted on Tuesday in astringent comments to the Treasury select committee by Lord Turnbull, former head of the civil service

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5425dd4e-3dd0-11e6-8716-a4a71e8140b0.html#axzz4CySOWBy6

Takedap

lovinituk wrote: »

I'm talking about MY business, not the UK!!! Come on, try and keep up!

I'll edit the post for those that can't be bothered to read the whole thread and take one post out of context (typical remainers!!).

Ah, The posts are all about YOU. I get it now! Sorry, I thought we were talking about important things.

lovinituk

Takedap wrote: »

Ah, The posts are all about YOU. I get it now! Sorry, I thought we were talking about important things.

No not all of them. Just the ones that required those particular answers when asked a particular question. Not my fault that others can't be arsed to keep up with the thread.

Of course my vote was based on what was important to me and I appreciate that will not be important to anyone else including your fine self.

Apology accepted

danothy

Having just read through this entire thread I'm still none the wiser as to what the plan is. Even the bat-drat crazy Scottish nationalists could point their finger at what they were going to try to leverage to fund their isolationist dream.