Holiday enitlement for my two job one employer situation?

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HI all,

looking for some advice for my circumstances of

Job 1 is[ 6 days a week] @ 2 hours per shift
Total hours worked -12 per week


Job 2 is spread over [3 days a week](Tue,Thur, Sun) @ 4.5 hour per shift

Total hours worked 13.5 per week


25.5 total hours a week worked. Single pay slip, both duties listed on their


This on-line calculator below outputs a different amount based on the input, of hours per week worked o days worked. Which is the correct method to calculate for this situation?
https://www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement

My employer informs me I've been overpaid/given to much in the past and it's somewhere in the region of 20 now.

What's the correct number? Thank you

~Beanie~

To get accurate results from that calculator, you need to know whether your employer bases your holiday entitlement on hours worked per week, days worked per week or by another method.

it's somewhere in the region of 20 now.

I don't understand this bit?

[Deleted User]

~Beanie~ wrote: »

To get accurate results from that calculator, you need to know whether your employer bases your holiday entitlement on hours worked per week, days worked per week or by another method.



I don't understand this bit?

That's the very issue, we had an accountant in the past, and now AFAIK the employer is now doing it all in house, and informed me in past years I've had to many days off/paid holidays

I've no idea how they are working it out, I've beeen told the number of days for this year is likely to be 20 or perhaps less once they check again. I've already had 14

I've played around with the calculator but can't end with 20 days no matter what I do...baffled

Thank you

getmore4less

One way is to treat this as two jobs.

Job 1 statutory holiday is 5.6 weeks(max 28 days) paid at a rate of 12hrs for a week off.

Job 2 statutory holiday is 5.6 weeks(3/5 16.8 days) paid at a rate of 13.5hrs for each week.

stevemLS

Why would job 2 be paid at the rate of 25.5 hrs/week when they only work 13.5 hrs/week?

The employer possibly regards it as 1 job with two different sets of duties - do you get one payslip or two?

[Deleted User]

getmore4less wrote: »

One way is to treat this as two jobs.

Job 1 statutory holiday is 5.6 weeks(max 28 days) paid at a rate of 12hrs for a week off.

Job 2 statutory holiday is 5.6 weeks(3/5 16.8 days) paid at a rate of 25.5hrs for each week.

Thanks! makes sense :T

[Deleted User]

stevemLS wrote: »

Why would job 2 be paid at the rate of 25.5 hrs/week when they only work 13.5 hrs/week?

The employer possibly regards it as 1 job with two different sets of duties - do you get one payslip or two?

edited OP, was clear to me, but added a some spacing for clarity . Added answer to OP also. Single slip

Thank you

jacksod

Hi, I'm an HR manager and if I was presented with this conundrum I would do the following equation to calculate hol entitlement for you:

5.6 weeks x 25.5 hours is your legal entitlement per annum.

When you take a day off that you only work 2 hours, then 2 hours are deducted.

When you take a day off that you work 6.5 hours then 6.5 hours are deducted.

When you take a full week then 25.5 hours are deducted.

I realise this means that you may end up with more 'days' off than others if you choose to take more Mon/Wed/Fri days off than the other days, but that would be your perogative.

I hope this helps.

LittleVoice

If your employer considers the work you do as two separate jobs, then each would have its own holiday entitlement. (This would be particularly appropriate for someone with different rates of pay for the two roles or if one was more difficult to get cover for.)


They would then work out holiday for each job independently.


By the way working 6 days a week in one of the jobs may upset the calculation a little as there is no extra entitlement for working 6 days compared with 5. They may be trying to say that you are entitled to 28 of those days as holiday. But certainly you would be entitled to 28 (which could include bank holidays if you don't work them when they would normally be part of your entitlement).


The 3-day-a-week job would mean that you would be entitled to 3 x 5.6 weeks, so 16.8 days. (They can round up that allocation but not round down at all.)


You need your employer to write out how they have calculated your entitlement.

getmore4less

stevemLS wrote: »

Why would job 2 be paid at the rate of 25.5 hrs/week when they only work 13.5 hrs/week?

The employer possibly regards it as 1 job with two different sets of duties - do you get one payslip or two?

Thanks fixed it.

[Deleted User]

jacksod wrote: »

Hi, I'm an HR manager and if I was presented with this conundrum I would do the following equation to calculate hol entitlement for you:

5.6 weeks x 25.5 hours is your legal entitlement per annum.

When you take a day off that you only work 2 hours, then 2 hours are deducted.

When you take a day off that you work 6.5 hours then 6.5 hours are deducted.

When you take a full week then 25.5 hours are deducted.

I realise this means that you may end up with more 'days' off than others if you choose to take more Mon/Wed/Fri days off than the other days, but that would be your perogative.

I hope this helps.

Crystal clear thank you so much!

LittleVoice wrote: »

If your employer considers the work you do as two separate jobs, then each would have its own holiday entitlement. (This would be particularly appropriate for someone with different rates of pay for the two roles or if one was more difficult to get cover for.)


They would then work out holiday for each job independently.


By the way working 6 days a week in one of the jobs may upset the calculation a little as there is no extra entitlement for working 6 days compared with 5. They may be trying to say that you are entitled to 28 of those days as holiday. But certainly you would be entitled to 28 (which could include bank holidays if you don't work them when they would normally be part of your entitlement).


The 3-day-a-week job would mean that you would be entitled to 3 x 5.6 weeks, so 16.8 days. (They can round up that allocation but not round down at all.)


You need your employer to write out how they have calculated your entitlement.

Thanks for the detailed reply, its very helpful. The situation is a messy one. In which at my place of work (A Bar) I began as staff on evenings and after some time was offered the role as cleaner too, Hence the 6 days @2hrs a day aswell as the 3 evening shifts.

I never had any concerns in previous years, the now Secretary (recent) has taken the role of managing all finances this year and concerns grew once I was told, that my entitlement will be significantly less this year. Despite no changes to hours worked

I have asked for the equation only to be told, he know's what hes doing. With all the advice I've been given i will ask again and if any doubts are raised I can challange it.

Thank you all