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Tax on a 'one off' payment received

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Beenie
Beenie Posts: 1,634 Forumite
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I hope there's an accountant reading this as I cannot find an answer anywhere.

The situation is that my husband has received a one-off payment at work for work he did on what subsequently received a patent.

The team received a couple of thousand pounds to share, so not a lot of money, and it was added in to their usual monthly salaries and taxed at source.

The question is this: this payment is a complete one-off. They are not expected to produce patentable work, and their employment income is not dependant on such a result.

Should this payment have been taxed? If it was (say) a Works Suggestion Scheme, then I believe it would have been tax free.

Any ideas?

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  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    Unless there is some specific scheme that HMRC operate for this type of payment then as with any other payment from an employer it's counted as income. I can't see how this is any different from any other sort of bonus payment, which you would expect to be taxed on.
  • Laurajo_2
    Laurajo_2 Posts: 380 Forumite
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    edited 29 November 2013 at 9:42PM
    Works suggestion schemes - the first 5k is tax free.

    However there are quite strict criteria to meet - it must be open to all employees or all employees in a group, the employee must have come up with it 'on their own'' - the company can't say ' I want you to do this' etc, even if it would be normally beyond their usual employment duties.

    I suspect the company would rather pay the employees NI on it, rather than try to argue the case with hmrc which would ultimately, I suspect, cost them more in potential accountancy fees and penalties (which are very punitive).
  • Beenie
    Beenie Posts: 1,634 Forumite
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    OK, that makes sense. Thank you both.
  • jimmo
    jimmo Posts: 2,287 Forumite
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    You might find this thread of interest.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4604095
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    I always try a google for any tax thing starting with HMRC

    eg in this case something like

    HMRC patent payments

    this usually brings up something relevant enough to get a start on HMRC pages.

    not read in detail but may be covered by
    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk.manuals/camanual/CA75200.htm

    an overview
    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/camanual/ca75000.htm


    What I would be checking is if the amount given is correct, IIRC there was some legislation put in place to protect employees when they contributed to patentable ideas.
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