Looking for ' non toxic / harmful-chemical free' make up brands please

Tara100

purcel wrote: »

Dr Hauschka
http://www.drhauschka.co.uk/products/makeup

I did have them on the list, but removed them after doing better research.

zarak

Thanks for thi thread

I want a good face cream and eye cream with very good spf in them, Any recommendations?
I used to sue Clarins eye contour. So before I get it again wanted to see if anything more natural was out there.

I have combination skin and it can be quite dull.

Tara100

zarak wrote: »

Thanks for thi thread

I want a good face cream and eye cream with very good spf in them, Any recommendations?
I used to sue Clarins eye contour. So before I get it again wanted to see if anything more natural was out there.

I have combination skin and it can be quite dull.

Hi

I'm glad the thread has helped

On checking,the product you are using by Clarins has parabens as it's ingredients (Ethylparaben, Methylparaben) I also then noted 'Propylene Glycol' and 'Titanium Dioxide' and hit the back button after that.
You do need to find better I'm afraid, as anything applied to your skin, does absorb right inside your body.
(Have a read up on parabens commonly found inside breast cancer tissues, through the use of paraben laden underarm deodorants)

I'm literally about to look for a BB / CC cream / mineral concealer for myself which isn't proving easy (for instance, Jane Iredale states her products are 'good for the skin' yet the J.I BB cream is loaded with silicones! Hence finding a true botanical-only / toxin free cream is a nightmare)


The best thing to do is set yourself an hour or so aside and search through the brands in my first post.
Once you have found the product(s) that suit you (refer back to Google for user reviews if necessary) then, shop around for the cheapest buys (check for free delivery codes too!)

I know it sounds an ordeal, but choosing good quality safe cosmetics is so important for your inner and outer body health(at a minimum, you will get remove spot breakouts / skin itching / red flare ups, and once you find the product for you, there's no need to search again )

p.s
Be careful when looking for any products with spf sunscreens, as they contain the worst offending chemicals.
Even in some 'natural' cosmetics, Titanium Dioxide is commonly used as a sunscreen agent, but testing shows it to be a highly suspected carcinogen (cancer causing)

http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706561/TITANIUM_DIOXIDE/

I recommend using the free EWG chemical checker, as it's quick and easy to check any chemicals
(store it in your 'favourites' to pull up anytime :cheesy:)

Tara100

Can any recommend a CC cream and some pure botanical perfume please? (eau de parfum not toilette)

IlonaRN

Hi Tara,

I followed your link about the Titanium Dioxide (as I was curious - I always thought this was much better than most sunscreens!), and found the following:

Cancer: possible toxicity, but only for inhalation and products which may be airborne.

Other:
Designated as safe for general or specific, limited use in food.
No absorption into intact skin.
Not suspected to be bioaccumulative.
Not suspected to be an environmental toxin.


According to this information, if you do not use a spray-on sunscreen, this is not toxic. In fact, it is safe to eat limited amounts, or to put on intact skin.

One source suggests it might be toxic or harmful (Environment Canada Domestic Substance List), but there are 13 references in all.
(disclosure: I have not read all of the references).

It is worth noting that sunburn is a high risk factor for skin cancer, so perhaps it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario for you?
Personally, I would rather use sunscreen, and I don't find any information on that page to stop using TiO2 sunscreens.

The makeupalley forums have a "green" board - they are very knowledgeable about the subject. You might find it helpful to look there.

I too am transitioning to more natural toiletries/makeup, so I shall follow your posts with interest
Could you explain why you discounted Dr Hauschka? I had thought they were quite "green", as all the ingredients are bio-dynamically grown. I just avoid those with most alcohol.

Tara100

Hi Ilona

I don't lie in the sun (I used to, and truly wish I'd looked after my skin better)
On days when the UV index is high, this is what I use, and it's the safest sunscreen I can find so far. (I used it last summer in Crete when walking around and never burnt once, so it does work)



All blue text below is directly from the Lavera website.

Lavera Sun Sensitive OrganicSunscreen Family Sun Spray SPF 15 is a organic sunscreen with 100% naturalminerals helping to protect your skin from the harmful UVA and UVB sun rays.

Family Sun Spray SPF15 is 100% mineral natural sunscreenwhich reflects the sun’s rays, is immediately effective, waterproof, suitablefor every skin type of the whole family. Organic plant oils helps keep yourskin moisturised.

The lavera range includes mineralsunscreens up to SPF30, which protect against harmful UVA and UVB rays.
Themain difference between natural mineral sunscreen and a synthetic one, is thatmineral sunscreens work by providing a protective ‘shield’ (of Zinc Oxide andTitanium Oxide) that instantly and effectively reflects the suns rays; whereassynthetic sun protection cream is absorbed into the skin and acts as a filter -the chemicals they contain counteract the effects of harmful UVA and UVB rays,(but often cause skin irritation because they contain synthetic emulsifiers andpreservatives)


I realise some studies say that Titanium Dioxide is only proven as carcinogenic when ingested (say through breathing in whilst spraying) but I don't want to take that chance when there are perfectly good non toxic alternatives out there
Anything applied topically will absorb right through the our skin layers and enter our bloodstream, so as a sunscreen in a cream form, I still wouldn't want to put it on my body when there's no need to.

Regarding Dr Haushcka, I often see in their cosmetic and body care products:

Fragrance/Parfum
Talc
Alcohol

Again, I prefer to avoid these additives.


As a side note, on Wednesday, I went into The Body Shop (1st time in many years) and bought their 'Extra Virgin Minerals' cream compact foundation as their same brand 'Extra Virgin Minerals' loose mineral powder had great ingredients.
When I got home and went onto the Body Shop site and read the full ingredients, I couldn't believe my eyes:

Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate (Emollient), Dimethicone (Skin Conditioning Agent), Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate (Sunscreen), Olea Europaea Fruit Oil (Emollient), Polyethylene (Opacifier), Titanium Dioxide (Sunscreen), Isononyl Isononanoate (Emollient/Skin Conditioner), Hydrogenated Coco-Glycerides (Emollient), Polymethylsilsesquioxane (Opacifying Agent), Polysilicone-11 (Film Former), Copernicia Cerifera Cera (Stabiliser/Viscosity Modifier), Mica (Opacifier), Boron Nitride (Bulking Agent), HDI/Trimethylol Hexyllactone Crosspolymer (Anticaking Agent), Cera Alba (Emulsifier/Emollient), Aluminum Hydroxide (Opacifier), Candelilla Cera (Stabiliser), Sclerocarya Birrea Seed Oil (Skin Conditioning Agent), Isostearic Acid (Emulsifier), Triethoxycaprylylsilane (Binder), Lauroyl Lysine (Skin Conditioning Agent), Tocopherol (Antioxidant), Glycine Soja Oil (Emollient/Skin Conditioner). [+/- CI 77891 (Colour), CI 77492 (Colour), CI 77491 (Colour), CI 77499 (Colour)].

I'll never presume again that differing items within the same range are all as good as each other.
'Extra Virgin Minerals' sounds as good as a cosmetic can get doesn't it? I was suckered in for sure!

ellay864

I'vwe been reading this with interest and am just intrigued as to what your main concerns are. Clearly you've really researched all these products but are you concerned about your safety? or the principle of using 'natural' as much as possible. Obviously you must understand that the side effects of any of these substances is just a declaration that there MAY be an increased risk in some people; it doesn't mean it will cause that effect. And those effects may also be seen with other things, such as drugs, household products. If you want to take it to extremes you should factor in things like driving, or walking in heavy traffic areas, or using areas where smokers may be present (I notice from your sig you've quit the evil weed yourself :T)
Living is a risk, it's all about the benefit-risk ratio. Can the slim chance of a side effect be outweighed by the (possible many or great) benefits of a product. I have to agree with IlonaRN's comment that sunburn is more likely risk of cancer than the ingredients within a sunscreen.
I'm not trying to be argumentative - just genuinely intrigued as to what your driver is. If you really want to avoid the nasties, don't use make-up - it's hardly essential and would instantly eliminate one source of risk

Tara100

ellay864 wrote: »

I'm not trying to be argumentative - just genuinely intrigued as to what your driver is.

Hi

I did expect someone at some point to query my out of the norm preferences / lifestyle choices, but I'd like to get back on track and ask if any posters can forward on their recommendations as in my OP please (which as I'm sure you will understand, is my reason for starting the thread )

Many thanks

clairibel

There is an offer on at the moment with Glamour mag, subscribe to 3 issues for £1 and get free gift of Liz Earle black eyeliner and lip gloss which have safe ingredients.

https://www.circules.com/subscribe/glamour-uk/128295

Remember to cancel DD after payment is taken.

Tara100

clairibel wrote: »

There is an offer on at the moment with Glamour mag, subscribe to 3 issues for £1 and get free gift of Liz Earle black eyeliner and lip gloss which have safe ingredients.

https://www.circules.com/subscribe/glamour-uk/128295

Remember to cancel DD after payment is taken.

Thank you so much! What a bargain :T
I've just subscribed, and I'm going to ask my daughter to do the same so I can snag the freebies

(I was given a couple of samples last week of Liz Earle's Botanical Essences perfume and it's so lovely)