Chancellor's Autumn Statement

GeorgeHowell

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20621313

Unbelievable hypocrisy, even coming from Balls and Labour.

The last thing they care about are strivers, much more concerned with the 'vulnerable', including all the workshy, f e c k less losers and wasters whose votes they hope to buy.

Just a spoiling tactic attempt because they don't know how to oppose the autumn statement with any credibility. Desperation in evidence from a failed political party that is inherently unfit to govern.

BertieUK

I think that it true to say that neither Messrs Cameron or Osborne are very popular with many of the British people at this moment in time.

Suppose that they do not manage to get the economy 'back on track' and unable to show that their policies are getting to grips with the situation that was,according to them, caused by the previous Government, and as time nears for the next General election, what direction will the Conservatives adopt in order to enable the public not to fall back on their old ways and elect the wrong party?

Would it be fair to say that a total change of leadership might be their saving grace, and put in leaders that have at least done jobs in the public sector, and have gained the respect ofthe public, rather than have leaders that who are at present dubbed as the 'poshboys' who have come from privileged backgrounds, and to give leadership to someonewho can understand what it is like at ground level, and to have come from a family background that worked hard for a living, by working their way up the ladder of success, then they would be able to address the people of this country on their level and have a better understanding of what it is like in the real world.

Are there any leaders in waiting that may fit this role?

Wookster

BertieUK wrote: »

Are there any leaders in waiting that may fit this role?

The simple answer is no. There is a crisis of leadership, the world over.

However bad you might think things are under Cameron & Osborne, they would be much worse after Labour would have (and still might!) taken us down the Greek route.

Edit: Furthermore one should not be seduced by the Labour promise that just a few more billion pounds a year will miraculously sort the UK out. That is an outright lie.

BertieUK

Wookster wrote: »

The simple answer is no. There is a crisis of leadership, the world over.

However bad you might think things are under Cameron & Osborne, they would be much worse after Labour would have (and still might!) taken us down the Greek route.

That is a frightening thought for all of us I must say.

StevieJ

Wookster wrote: »

The simple answer is no. There is a crisis of leadership, the world over.

However bad you might think things are under Cameron & Osborne, they would be much worse after Labour would have (and still might!) taken us down the Greek route.

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And you know this how? Well we find out after the next election.

GeorgeHowell

StevieJ wrote: »

And you know this how? Well we find out after the next election.

If the majority of the British electorate is stupid enough to vote in again the bunch of incompetent, damaging losers who largely got them into this situation, then they will deserve to find themselves living in a country that is going down the tubes.

But I wouldn't rule it out -- as Churchill said, the biggest argument against democracy can be found by holding a five minute conversation with the average voter.

StevieJ

GeorgeHowell wrote: »

If the majority of the British electorate is stupid enough to vote in again the bunch of incompetent, damaging losers who largely got them into this situation, then they will deserve to find themselves living in a country that is going down the tubes.

But I wouldn't rule it out -- as Churchill said, the biggest argument against democracy can be found by holding a five minute conversation with the average voter.

I think they will probably conclude that Labour were hit by a once in a century Hurricane, then after looking at Greece,France,Portugal,Ireland and so on, then they may conclude that Labour had done us a great service keeping us out of the Euro and passing on a 'AAA' rating to The Tories, let us just hope that George doesn't lose it

pqrdef

BertieUK wrote: »

Would it be fair to say that a total change of leadership might be their saving grace

Nadine Dorries? Eric Pickles?

A._Badger

BertieUK wrote: »

Would it be fair to say that a total change of leadership might be their saving grace, and put in leaders that have at least done jobs in the public sector, and have gained the respect ofthe public, rather than have leaders that who are at present dubbed as the 'poshboys' who have come from privileged backgrounds, and to give leadership to someonewho can understand what it is like at ground level, and to have come from a family background that worked hard for a living, by working their way up the ladder of success, then they would be able to address the people of this country on their level and have a better understanding of what it is like in the real world.

Are there any leaders in waiting that may fit this role?

And there's the rub. What is the alternative to the worst Conservative since Heath? The champagne socialist son of a Marxist millionaire, with absolutely no experience, or a socialist EU apparatchik with only tenuous connections to the UK?

It is hard to remember a time when this country was offered such an appalling choice. No wonder people refuse to vote. We have been betrayed by the party system.

coastline

We ain't going down the Greek route...we never were...simply because ALL parties were committed to reducing the budget deficit to around £80bn by 2015.
We've had a AAA rating throughout these events...and it might never happen this review if growth returns as it did in 1992 ??
No party these days set their stall out unless they are elected so thats why we have all these different views.Cameron himself didn't tell the electorate how he would tackle the deficit and Labour are no different....wait until you have the chair.
After 19 years of Tory rule they were defeated and I think it was the heaviest defeat since 1850 ish.After 13 years of Labour they were defeated obviously because of the slump...not many governments would have survived.
What we have now is the result of the last 30-40 years...you would have thought it was easy for the Tories to return in 2010....the punters thought otherwise.