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Why doesn't Cameron want Scottish Independence?
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Thanks for that.
The service industry is everywhere and just relative to the areas, population and needs. A lot of it is fully or partly public funded.
Most of the service sector is pretty much just "money go round" (where the Tesco worker pays for the tube to get to work and the tube driver buys his shopping in Tesco) which is an important part of a modern society but not really generating any more income relative to any other part of the UK.
Look at the biggest economy in Europe. Germany has a lot of important city's country wide and is one of the worlds largest exporters.
With respect you don't appear to know what you're talking about. I'm not talking about airy-fairy definitions (which you are). I'm talking about simple maths regarding stuff like revenue generation from Corp Tax and Income Tax. London & the South power the rest of the country. Fact. It's a similar situation to Germany in the EU, the difference is that altho the UK has one currency the same as the EU countries do, the EU countries DON'T have political union. Which is why in the UK the South subsidises the north with relatively little complaint ( as opposed to the massive complaint you'd see from German voters if the Germany was forced to bail out Greece etc).0 -
As Gen says, you didn't phrase the question so it was unambiguous.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Good effort, but he wasn't a manager at the time ;o)
It's actually a trick questions, No English manager has lifted the Premier League Trophy.
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Just checking, but you're not responsible for writing the Scottish independence referendum question are you? ...;)0 -
As Gen says, you didn't phrase the question so it was unambiguous.
Just checking, but you're not responsible for writing the Scottish independence referendum question are you? ...;)
LOL. I can imagine Mr Salmond wanting to rewrite that too after the answer has been given!
At the moment it looks like he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the referendum. Still there's a long way to go yet.0 -
Jennifer_Jane wrote: »Yes, LM, also watched QT last night, and This Week afterwards.
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We may think the debates in here are poor quality at times, but those 2 shows last night were just dire.
The guest on This Week misconstrued the whole independence question with his take on a socialist vision of Scotland. He gave no compelling argument as to why independence would lead to a socialist led government in Scotland.
He also gave the impression that independence would provide the opportunity to get rid of Nuclear subs on Scottish soil. This would be disappointing news to anyone working up there to support the base.
Meanwhile Nicola Sturgeon quoted the 9.x percentage figures to support the argument that Scotland generates a £2.7bn surplus. This doesn't take into account that the whole UK is spending more than it generates in revenue. When you allow for this overspend, the surplus is no more.
I'm not sure you can trust any of these politicians for the truth right now.0 -
Loughton_Monkey wrote: »I would have thought Cameron would be firmly behind the Salmon guy in promoting full independence for Scotland.
1. He would go down in history as the last PM of the UK as we know it now.
2. It would ensure that the elections for the remainder of the UK would always vote in a Conservative government.
3. It would plug the financial gap [drain] that we are told exists in the revenue stream north of the border.
I suspect allowing all the 16/17 year olds in will swing the vote in favour of independence - not least so they don't have to pay university fees [until, of course, Scotland works out it can't afford it].
I think, however, Cameron has made one big mistake in not insisting on a seperate currency. Surely, Scotland has the potential to be to the £ what Greece is to the €.
Apart from your third point, the first two are two of the worst reasons for why a political decision should be made. I really just hope big decisions are made on more than legacy and votes.0 -
No changing the question after the answer is given. Naughty ISTL.
I don;t see it as changing the question, although you had a good work around.
The inferance is that the manager lifts the trophy at the time of wining.
It's just pedantics if you want the question more clearly
There's probably many English "managers" who have lifted the trophy, the point you reference that Steve Bruce lifted the trophy, he was a player / captain at the time, not the manager.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Well, they were playing Liverpool.
This - from a top quality club - was a bit more emphatic
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14486531
Fair doo's, but as they say, your only as good as your last game which was 1-1 at the KOP.
Nevermind, it's just a bit of fun.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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As Gen says, you didn't phrase the question so it was unambiguous.
Would the question "Who was the last English manager of a team to win the English Premier League?" been better phrased?
It's still null and void though
as there have been non ;o)Just checking, but you're not responsible for writing the Scottish independence referendum question are you? ...;)
No I'm not, what is the question anyway?
Is it not a simple "Do you agree that Scotland should be an independent country?"
Seems pretty clear to me. Where's the ambiguity?:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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We may think the debates in here are poor quality at times, but those 2 shows last night were just dire.
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They generally are these days at least This Week takes the p*ss out the situation.
QT politician panelists generally treat the "audience" in the widest sense as stupid."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
IveSeenTheLight wrote: »...
No I'm not, what is the question anyway?
Is it not a simple "Do you agree that Scotland should be an independent country?"
Seems pretty clear to me. Where's the ambiguity?
Can I suggest multiple choice ?
A) Scotland should be an independent country
No, we are stuck with that lot down South
C) Sorry, I'm not clever enough to know what "multiple choice" means. I'm out.
D) What time is the raffle ? , and just to be clear, is it free chips AND beer or free chips OR beer.
But seriously, there are highly experienced pollsters who have suggested that the word "agree" is a soft and leading suggestive term.0
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