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Ad9898's 2022 prediction thread :D

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  • julieq
    julieq Posts: 2,603 Forumite
    Do we still get hover boards?
  • AD9898_2
    AD9898_2 Posts: 527 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    Do we still get hover boards?


    Given the physical limitations of this particular universe, gravitational repulsion without significant energy consumption is impossible given Einsteins theory of special relativity.... so no hover boards, warp drive or Star trek type transporters or replicators :(

    Given our current knowledge (and we have to use this given the time available, it's no use speculating what we might be able to do in 100 years time as the acuteness of the problem is becoming aware now)..... only fusion can save us from massive depopulation, war, famine and pestilence... not nice, but alternative theories given our time constraints are just pie in the sky.
    Have owned outright since Sept 2009, however I'm of the firm belief that high prices are a cancer on society, they have sucked money out of the economy, handing it to banks who've squandered it.
  • julieq
    julieq Posts: 2,603 Forumite
    Malthusian hover boards then :(
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    AD9898 wrote: »
    Given the physical limitations of this particular universe, gravitational repulsion without significant energy consumption is impossible given Einsteins theory of special relativity.... so no hover boards, warp drive or Star trek type transporters or replicators :(

    Given our current knowledge (and we have to use this given the time available, it's no use speculating what we might be able to do in 100 years time as the acuteness of the problem is becoming aware now)..... only fusion can save us from massive depopulation, war, famine and pestilence... not nice, but alternative theories given our time constraints are just pie in the sky.

    No replication but we do get 3d printing.

    There are alternatives to cold fusion: covering just 1% of the entire Sahara desert would provide enough power for all of Europe. Instead of wasting time defining chocolate & making Europe uncompetitive, the EU could throw all its resources into safeguarding Europe's future energy requirements.

    At least then they'd be doing something useful then.
  • AD9898_2
    AD9898_2 Posts: 527 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    Malthusian hover boards then :(

    Given that Thomas Malthus died in 1834, he was basing his theory on a world before oil, it's arguable that what he said was quite correct based on human history upto that point.

    Again this could be the case now, if we find something that will scale for a population of 6+ billion and rising within a very short time frame, fusion being a case in point, disaster could be averted. However it is my belief that we cannot do this. Hell it takes 15 years to get a nuclear power plant up and running never mind creating a star on earth that will provide power.

    For this particular cycle in human history... it's nearly Game Over.
    Have owned outright since Sept 2009, however I'm of the firm belief that high prices are a cancer on society, they have sucked money out of the economy, handing it to banks who've squandered it.
  • AD9898_2
    AD9898_2 Posts: 527 Forumite
    Wookster wrote: »
    No replication but we do get 3d printing.

    There are alternatives to cold fusion: covering just 1% of the entire Sahara desert would provide enough power for all of Europe. Instead of wasting time defining chocolate & making Europe uncompetitive, the EU could throw all its resources into safeguarding Europe's future energy requirements.

    At least then they'd be doing something useful then.

    Indeed I've heard this before... it's not happening though. Building this alone in that kind of environment would be a huge challenge, then building the infrastucture would be a task that would take literally decades and lets not forget the political implications for the countries involved.

    Even that doesn't solve the problem that over 92% of the world's transportation systems require cheap oil.
    Have owned outright since Sept 2009, however I'm of the firm belief that high prices are a cancer on society, they have sucked money out of the economy, handing it to banks who've squandered it.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    julieq wrote: »
    Get rid of Scotland and FRACK the living bejesus out of the north west I reckon under a permanent Tory government, enslave anyone not killed by methane in the water supply as either manufacturing drones or DJing youth radio. Happy days for the South East. :D

    We're kind of partial to a bit of Meths up here thanks :D

    A nice bottle of vintage 2011 from the Wickes Vineyards has a cheeky afterburner twang to it.

    As for fracking, I look forward to seeing what Blackpool looks like when it's a Wild West frontier town. They will spend all the money on a new super duper Roller Coaster.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    AD9898 wrote: »
    For this particular cycle in human history... it's nearly Game Over.

    Every doom monger in human history has ultimately been proven wrong.

    Quite frankly there is a greater chance of me becoming the Pope than you being the first doomer in history to be right about the terminal decline of mankind.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    AD9898 wrote: »
    Indeed I've heard this before... it's not happening though. Building this alone in that kind of environment would be a huge challenge, then building the infrastucture would be a task that would take literally decades and lets not forget the political implications for the countries involved.

    Even that doesn't solve the problem that over 92% of the world's transportation systems require cheap oil.

    Yes it is major, and it would require an EU wide national grid. It is a major undertaking, however, without a magic cold fusion solution (which is probably years away) it is foolish not to start making alternative plans.

    Increasing oil prices will change transport patterns anyways though, over a longer timescale though, unless there is the supply shock.
  • AD9898_2
    AD9898_2 Posts: 527 Forumite
    Every doom monger in human history has ultimately been proven wrong.

    Quite frankly there is a greater chance of me becoming the Pope than you being the first doomer in history to be right about the terminal decline of mankind.

    Do you not read human history Hamish ? Every so called 'doom monger' has not been wrong, many civilisations have come and gone in the time frame since we first evolved, some like the the Ancient Eygptians and the Babylonians were far more advanced than many subsequent civilizations as well.

    Given this evidence it's quite feasible that a 150 year exponential advancement in technology on the back of cheap oil, could quite easily go in reverse when that energy source is no longer available or economically viable.

    We only have to look at the fuel protests in 2000 to see how quickly our frail society crumbles without this commodity. We went from everything being hunky dory, has it had been everyday since the end of the second world war, to utter panic with supermarkets almost empty of food.. within just 1 week !!

    I want to be optimistic, I want life to carry on just as it has done, like most others... but frankly I've seen nothing except empty 'technology will save us' rhetoric, without the slightest bit of evidence that such ideas could be scaled in the time we have.
    Have owned outright since Sept 2009, however I'm of the firm belief that high prices are a cancer on society, they have sucked money out of the economy, handing it to banks who've squandered it.
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