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Does this mean 'The Terrorists Have Won'?

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  • Sir_Humphrey
    Sir_Humphrey Posts: 1,978 Forumite
    No
    This is the interesting question for the ConDem's committment to civil liberties. Will they support civil liberty positions that are not populist?
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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    No
    Off topic but this made me laugh, those jobsworths have got worse icon7.gif

    A Wearside great-grandmother has won her fight against a £50 fine for picking up the wrong dog mess.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8690370.stm
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    No
    Sir_Humphrey wrote: »
    This is the interesting question for the ConDem's committment to civil liberties. Will they support civil liberty positions that are not populist?

    Such as?

    There are some laws that really are so far from necessary, or serving any practical purpose such as no demonstrations within 1 mile of parliament, stop & search and laws making it illegal to take any photos or videos of policeman.

    These are examples of Labour's authoritarianism that need to be cosigned to the dustbin.
  • Exocet
    Exocet Posts: 744 Forumite
    Um....

    "Police never found any bomb making equipment and were unable to bring criminal charges because of a lack of evidence. "

    Er...
  • dave4545454
    dave4545454 Posts: 2,025 Forumite
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    No
    what a stupid poll, i managed to vote yes AND no
    Martin has asked me to tell you I'm about to cut the cheese, pull my finger.
  • Butterfly_Brain
    Butterfly_Brain Posts: 8,862 Forumite
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    Yes
    It is about time this country got it's balls back and deport all suspected terrorists to country of origin whether born here or not - Personally I don't care if they are tortured
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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    No
    Do you think we will be able to get the motorway speed limits scrapped icon7.gif
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Do you think we will be able to get the motorway speed limits scrapped icon7.gif


    I think a straight swap should be proposed: zero tolerance of alcohol/drugs in system, in return for no upper speed limit on motorways. I think I'd have to do all my christmas shopping in November though.....
  • Alan_Cross
    Alan_Cross Posts: 1,226 Forumite
    Pennywise wrote: »

    Likewise when you're allowed to take a 50cl bottle of liquid on a plane, but not a 51cl bottle, or when a group of you can each take a 50cl bottle (potentially a few litres of liquid) on a plane, you know the legislation was badly written.

    .

    A nonsense argument. Limits have to be set somewhere, surely.

    Tell you what, stick 100cl of petrol in a bottle, place it in your car and light the blue touch paper. Enjoy, afterwards, the 'liberty' you have to call the emergency services. While the brigade is dealing with the smoking ruins, you can enjoy the 'liberty' of imagining an upgrade to genuine explosives and a pressurised cabin at 30,000 feet.

    Most of the things which you decry cost big money and would not be done unless thought to be useful. No government would prefer the publicity of introducing security measures to that of spending more on e.g. hospitals.

    You really do need to take a step back, realise that you're living in the age of Al Qaeda and not that of chivalry and re-think your position.
  • Alan_Cross
    Alan_Cross Posts: 1,226 Forumite
    lostinrates wrote: »
    I think a straight swap should be proposed: zero tolerance of alcohol/drugs in system, in return for no upper speed limit on motorways. I think I'd have to do all my christmas shopping in November though.....

    I'm afraid speed is precisely that for some people - a drug.

    I've seen the results on more than one motorway.
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