Why shouldn't I vote lib dem?

The_White_Horse

the libdems are just a pointless waste of space. its like voting for luke warm water.

all you will get is higher taxes.

basically, if you want to pay more tax and waste your vote, vote libdem.

also, if brown gets in for another 5 years the country is doomed forever. voting libdem could hand clown power.

vote tory and let the country get better.

Really2

Why shouldn't I vote lib dem?

The Euro – Liberal Democrats believe that it is in Britain’s long-term interest to be part of
the Euro. But Britain should only join when the economic conditions are right, and with
the present economic turbulence and volatility, they are not at the moment. If the
government were to recommend joining the euro, Liberal Democrats believe this should
only take place if that decision were supported by the people of Britain in a referendum.

We all know a party does what it wants to do in the end, referendum or not (Ireland).
Same as Labour but tax the @ss off you to spend it instead of borrowing it.

BigJonnyB

Masomnia wrote: »

Swing it the other way.

Why should you vote Lib Dem?

A few years ago they wanted a 50p tax rate, then they didn't. They were very pro-Europe, now they're not. They wanted to scrap tuition fees for students, now they don't.

Except that's not true. They've made it clear that there is no way that they can fund a scrap of tuition fees with the current defecit. It's still something that they want to do, but not something that can be done immediately. They're also still the most pro European, and the most aggressive on re-distributing the tax system.

All I can see is a load of people moaning that we only have two choices - but then these same people bemoan anyone who would possibly 'waste' a vote on anyone other than the main two.

BlondeHeadOn

I am coming around to the view that what I actually want as the result from the next election is a hung parliament. I would really like to see the politicians of various parties try to work together for a change, and the 'best' MPs get the best jobs for them, regardless of their party.

All the policies seem to be pretty much similar anyway, why not try to force them to stop bickering and try to play nicely together for a change? It can't be any worse then the current system, I am so fed up of all the name-calling, reminds me of a kindergarten.

Oh, and one of the first things they should do when in government is to hold a referendum on Europe, including a question on joining the euro. Let us all finally all have our say - and then listen to what we do say, not just ignore it and do the opposite!

That's my tuppence-worth, anyway.....

kennyboy66_2

Masomnia wrote: »

Swing it the other way.

Why should you vote Lib Dem?

A few years ago they wanted a 50p tax rate, then they didn't.

You mean like Labour

Masomnia wrote: »

They were very pro-Europe, now they're not. .

You mean like the Tories or Labour

Masomnia wrote: »

They wanted to scrap tuition fees for students, now they don't.

You mean like Labour again.



I doubt people Labour supporters thought they were voting for University fees. Ask a room full of Tories about Europe and watch as the fight kicks off.

Spartacus_Mills

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Seriously.

I don't know too much about them....maybe this is a reason I should not be voting! But, this thread is for that purpose, to tell me why I should not vote for them.

My reasons for swaying towards voting for them (pretty much secured my vote)

1. They seem far more honest that the other two parties. Not completely honest I have no doubt, but seem more honest.

2. Have actually said what they will cut....and I like what they will cut.

3. Vince Cable.

4. Would like to see them have a chance. How badly can they really screw up? Labour screw up massively it seems each time they have the chance. Tories never seem to get anywhere as they keep on getting handed a poisoned chalice. Lib Dems just sit on the sidelines, making, what seems, decent, sound, suggestions.

So my question is, why are they 3rd runners all the time? What is making other people opt for other parties? What am I missing?

I am a natural Lib Dem supporter however my one concern with them is the Vote Yellow Get Red narrative. I think the Lib Dem voters are naturally to the right of the activists and PLP. This being that they have drawn most of their support over the years from the Tories in previously Tory seats where the Labour vote was minimal.

Clegg has been right to maintain equi-distance from both parties. As much as I like Cable his past as a firebrand socialist pushes him, naturally, closer to Labour.

Why are they third runners, well there is an element of it being a wasted vote in a two horse race which is a shame. But given that Labour and the Tories have moved to the centre over the last 20 years they are naturally moving onto the Lib Dems territory.

DaddyBear

After last night's debate, it is clear that Vince Cable is the only one who understands what eent wrong in the world economy. Darling may do but is being shakled by Broon. Georgie was a fish out of water.

I am seriously considering voting Liberal but the votes they get, the higher the chance of a labour victorty. Maybe the best we can hope for is a hung parlaiment so that Liberals like Vince get more of an input.
Anyway, its yellow or blue for me, but with each passing day it becomes clear that the Tories are about as clueless as Labour.

lostinrates

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

I am a natural Lib Dem supporter however my one concern with them is the Vote Yellow Get Red narrative. I think the Lib Dem voters are naturally to the right of the activists and PLP. This being that they have drawn most of their support over the years from the Tories in previously Tory seats where the Labour vote was minimal.

Clegg has been right to maintain equi-distance from both parties. As much as I like Cable his past as a firebrand socialist pushes him, naturally, closer to Labour.

Why are they third runners, well there is an element of it being a wasted vote in a two horse race which is a shame. But given that Labour and the Tories have moved to the centre over the last 20 years they are naturally moving onto the Lib Dems territory.

I do not really want a lib dem government , but for those who are questioning whether its a vote wasted, but really want to vote that way, I'd do it if I were you.

with the present malaise and cable-hysteria the Lib Dems stand a good chance of gaining significant ground...if all those that say they would vote for them really do.

Do it however in the knowledge living in a lib dem area isn't gonna rock your world to any great degree! Yellow is a pretty colour, prettier, imo, than red or yellow, so that's a nice thing anyway. and they have loads of free advertising with all the daffs atm. they could capitilaise on that; even nature casts a lib dem vote.

StevieJ

A._Badger wrote: »

I didn't mention the Tories - that was your straw man. I simply pointed out the tank-sized hole in your claim that the recession was due to the activities of US banks. I pointed out the failure of NR and the government's complicity in lending policy.

Is it worth trying to have a sensible conversation, or does it always resolve to 'Tories - yah-boo'?

I think it is reasonable to ask what the Tories may have done in the crisis due to the fact that an election is almost upon us and they have been attempting to make political capital out of the situation, especially when we have evidence of their mindset at the time.

A vast range of regulations on the financial services industry should either be abolished or watered down, including money-laundering restrictions affecting banks and building societies. Mr Redwood's group also sees "no need to continue" to regulate mortgage provision, saying it is the lender, not the client, who takes the risk.

flossy_splodge

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Seriously.

I don't know too much about them....maybe this is a reason I should not be voting! But, this thread is for that purpose, to tell me why I should not vote for them.

My reasons for swaying towards voting for them (pretty much secured my vote)

1. They seem far more honest that the other two parties. Not completely honest I have no doubt, but seem more honest.

2. Have actually said what they will cut....and I like what they will cut.

3. Vince Cable.

4. Would like to see them have a chance. How badly can they really screw up? Labour screw up massively it seems each time they have the chance. Tories never seem to get anywhere as they keep on getting handed a poisoned chalice. Lib Dems just sit on the sidelines, making, what seems, decent, sound, suggestions.

So my question is, why are they 3rd runners all the time? What is making other people opt for other parties? What am I missing?

It's called 'proportional representation'!!