I'm a wobble-bottom, feather-bed me!

lostinrates

Kohoutek wrote: »

I think our unemployment benefit is very ungenerous, because in the current economic climate, the majority of claimants are people who have been made redundant and fallen on hard times. Scandinavian countries such as Denmark and Norway have very generous unemployment benefit, coupled with programmes to help people retrain into new careers if necessary. We just have a derisory £60 a week.

People who have been in employment contribute towards unemployment benefit and state pensions through paying national insurance - they deserve to claim benefits when they're made redundant or retire.

However, we have a extensive class of people who have never made significant or sometimes any contributions to national insurance that claim enormous sums in housing benefit, council tax benefit, child benefit, incapacity benefits etc. It's often a perverse incentive not to work.

I don't believe in the something for nothing argument unless its to relieve significant hardship. I don't think it's helpful to society to allow people to live off the state easily. Look at the enormous budgets for welfare in the UK and US - the out of control budgets and culture of entitlement are a key reason why both countries are heading towards bankruptcy.

I agree with all of this, but I think its something to be applied equally across the board. I also think we live in a way that has fostered reliance in people...on the state, on authority...and in general we have a very low incidence of resourcefulness and risk taking as a result. For me the answer would be less....of everything all along the way, make life more reward based.

wageslave

I hate threads about weight. I think they are so anti-feminism.

I bought a jacket today, size large (Ok, I know I have been spending too much lately but I have been busy earning too, swings and roundabouts). Anyways size large. Size fu cking 12. On what planet did a 12 become size large?

I think size is a very much a woman thing, no man I met ever seemed to give a fu ck.

I have been a size 6 and a size 16 as I alternately starved and binged. I am a size 10 now and wanted a jacket I could wear a jumper under and suddenly I am large.

carolt

I don't think it'a anti-feminism.

In this thread I very much had my dad in mind - he's v overweight - always has been.

Always worked.

If he can - so can others.

lostinrates

I think I'm anti feminism. In some ways. But pro women's equality. IYSWIM. If we want equality, we got to stop getting so paranoid that when we say ''weight'' we are pointing at a woman. If we want equality we've got to sacrifice some of what is self imposed tht restricts us. If we want to be the same, we are on a losing battle and if we want it all....we need to marry rich men, suffer and be beautiful.

wageslave

Size large equals a womans size 12

If I nip out to Topshop tomorrow and buy a mans size large will that equate to a 32inch chest?

lostinrates

wageslave wrote: »

Size large equals a womans size 12

If I nip out to Topshop tomorrow and buy a mans size large will that equate to a 32inch chest?

I dunno. I know dh, who is not tall and not overweight, is a large in Zara, and a small in gap...

designer sizes, for example, in womens clothing, ahve always felt small. I remeber at a size ten feeling very fat and frumpy not being able to get stuff on. At a small 8 I looked like death with boobs and felt like a goddess, and rarely got asked out. and when I did it was by control freak men, at a size 16 my bum was black and blue from being felt up on the tube. What does this say about feminism? It say to me I'm bloddy nuts to dream of trying to be a size 8 again, but that its not something imposed by nazi clothes designers or men. I also note that clothes sizes, and women were smaller, and yet looked fleshier in many pictures....whats with that?

wageslave

lostinrates wrote: »

I dunno. I know dh, who is not tall and not overweight, is a large in Zara, and a small in gap...

designer sizes, for example, in womens clothing, ahve always felt small. I remeber at a size ten feeling very fat and frumpy not being able to get stuff on. At a small 8 I looked like death with boobs and felt like a goddess, and rarely got asked out. and when I did it was by control freak men, at a size 16 my bum was black and blue from being felt up on the tube. What does this say about feminism? It say to me I'm bloddy nuts to dream of trying to be a size 8 again, but that its not something imposed by nazi clothes designers or men. I also note that clothes sizes, and women were smaller, and yet looked fleshier in many pictures....whats with that?

I think clothes are designed by gay men who fancy little boys.

chopperharris

they wil never get me to turn as long as i find women like lady gaga attractive , what woman cant resist a massive chopper ...

walter_wobblebottom

Hi i'm walter and i am a wobblebottom:D

wageslave

walter_wobblebottom wrote: »

Hi i'm walter and i am a wobblebottom:D

You look lovely in pink