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Suspended from work! Don't know why
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So Rexx, has he been given a date for a disciplinary meeting and is he taking a union rep?
The main thing for him to do is to make sure that he gets everything documented. Who ever is taking the notes needs to be taking them accurately. If he doesn't think this is happening, then he needs to state it clearly - and get them to write it. He doesn't sign anything unless it is a true representation of the facts.
If at any time he feels that the meeting needs to be suspended, then he needs to make it clear. If he feels that the allegations are being trumped up because of past incdents that he has witnessed, then he needs to state so, and fully put it on record. If he thinks he is a victim of bullying, then again, he needs to state so on record. If anything thrown at him is factually incorrect, then he needs to state so on record.
Get the drift?
It is very hard to sack someone and actually win at a tribunal if they appeal. A lot of employers take advantage of their employee's ignorance and general apathy. Make sure your Dad gets everything documented at every turn. Don't take anything that you don't agree with. Pull them up at every turn you can.
It's a game of wits - he just needs to make sure he keeps his."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
One thing I've learned is that there is never any smoke without fire, so I'd want to hear the full story before passing comment.
Also, in the instances when employers follow procedure - as they appear to be doing now - they are usually completely confident they have a case.
I couldn't disagree more."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
I couldn't disagree more.
How can you disagree with the proposition that it is important to hear the employers' side of the argument before passing judgement?
What can POSSIBLY be an employer's motivation for starting a procedure like this, unless they believe they have a good case? Do you think employers relish being tied up in meetings, industrial tribunals, meetings with unions and lawyers, just for the sheer hell of it?
Employers do not embark on this type of thing willynilly. It is patently against their interests to do so, and the repercussions for employers getting it wrong are severe.
Ergo - I'm prepared to bet heavily there is a story here that the OP is either not sharing or doesnt know about.0 -
No sorry to disappoint you, may I suggest if your seeking a new partner that you register your interests on a dating site.
The vast majority of people can come onto a thread and, even if they fail to agree with the points of view of others, can engage in a courteous, sensible discussion without insulting or offending people.
Regards Gerry
~YAWNS~ Nah i am happy with my current partner and our 3 kids thanks. Sorry but you saying being brought to tears really is stupid. You need to grow up.0 -
I have many many years of experience in this area
I was brought up in Canada, and I can assure you that muppets can't cry. They are made of cloth and stuffing; and do not have tearducts.0 -
So Rexx, has he been given a date for a disciplinary meeting and is he taking a union rep?
The main thing for him to do is to make sure that he gets everything documented. Who ever is taking the notes needs to be taking them accurately. If he doesn't think this is happening, then he needs to state it clearly - and get them to write it. He doesn't sign anything unless it is a true representation of the facts.
If at any time he feels that the meeting needs to be suspended, then he needs to make it clear. If he feels that the allegations are being trumped up because of past incdents that he has witnessed, then he needs to state so, and fully put it on record. If he thinks he is a victim of bullying, then again, he needs to state so on record. If anything thrown at him is factually incorrect, then he needs to state so on record.
Get the drift?
It is very hard to sack someone and actually win at a tribunal if they appeal. A lot of employers take advantage of their employee's ignorance and general apathy. Make sure your Dad gets everything documented at every turn. Don't take anything that you don't agree with. Pull them up at every turn you can.
It's a game of wits - he just needs to make sure he keeps his.
Excellent advice mrcow, :T :T :T
I agree with you 100% the most important thing is to get everything documented and keep a file of all correspondence. It’s also important to ensure that you follow the steps of the employment law vigilantly.
I went through the process of an employment tribunal a few years ago. Discrimination due to disability as my previous employer made me redundant a week after I advised them I needed a lung transplant, despite the fact that I was awarded employee of the year 6 months previously and had worked with them with chronic lung disease for over 3 years. It took a year from the date I was made redundant before the tribunal date and they settled out of court at 5pm the evening before the Tribunal date.
Regards Gerry0 -
~YAWNS~ Nah i am happy with my current partner and our 3 kids thanks. Sorry but you saying being brought to tears really is stupid. You need to grow up.
Thanks for your advice, however due to your obvious lack of intelligence I will refrain from taking any of your advice onboard.
P.S. I’m actually a “female” Muppet as you put it.
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