Scrappage scheme 'to be extended'

lexa34

leveller2911 wrote: »

Where is the real long term benefit in this scheme???.

"Plus, all these new cars have lower co2's and so lower tax bands (less tax for Treasury), are more fuel efficient (less duty at the pumps paid over), more exemption from congestion charges, etc."

There are 4 in here for starters!

lostinrates

lexa34 wrote: »

"Plus, all these new cars have lower co2's and so lower tax bands (less tax for Treasury), are more fuel efficient (less duty at the pumps paid over), more exemption from congestion charges, etc."

There are 4 in here for starters!

Really?

Lower co2..sure, but not to have made these cars to replace functioning cars..making a car is not, I imagine a low co2 enterprise.
lower tax and congestion charges, great..when we have a bigger bill to pay with greater government debt, one hand giveth, the other will taketh away!

the only one I see is the reduced fuel consumption. but then, the fuel that went into making these and destroying the old ones? like making, I wonder how green breaking is.

leveller2911

lexa34 wrote: »

"Plus, all these new cars have lower co2's and so lower tax bands (less tax for Treasury), are more fuel efficient (less duty at the pumps paid over), more exemption from congestion charges, etc."

There are 4 in here for starters!

"More fuel efficient", sorry can't agree.I had an X plate Skoda Octavia which did 65 mpg average and up to 72 mpg in summer..You seem to think everyone will buy a 1.0 ltr Citroen C1 or similar.......Don't forget ALL new cars are NOT enviromentally friendly because they still use lead batteries etc, components that are transported all around the world so thats a bit of a false statement.

I was chatting to a friend who is a proper time served machanic (not a grease monkey or fitter) and he said the air quality coming out of modern cars is cleaner than the air going in...lol .........When I asked how modern, he said most cars post 02..........:rolleyes:

shop-to-drop

leveller will you ask your friend about the air quality coming out of new diesel cars for me please and post back what he says? Thank you that would be really useful.

Martinslovechild

PM wrote: »

So they are going to do two thing Im guessing,

1. Pump in more money
and 2. change Van limit from 10 to 8yrs.

I wish they would do that on cars, then I can get rid of my honda accord!

They've also extended the timeframe for cars applicable for the allowance from 31 August 1999 to 29 February 2000, thereby covering V-Reg cars.

Generali

mewbie wrote: »

Is the scrappage scheme a form of state subsidy? Is it fair competition in terms of European rules? I don't really understand it tbh.

Sort of connected to how the government throws money around. Anyone remember Farepak? Apparently, even when times were booming, the government couldn't find a few million to compensate some of the lowest earning people in the country saving for their children's Xmas's. Probably around the time they scrapped the 10p tax band too.

There's something a bit sick about giving people a bit off money off a brand new car, when let's face it, a lot of people are suffering.

It's a form of state subsidy but as it applies to cars made outside the UK as well as within it is legal AIUI.

I think it's a pretty bizarre scheme myself. You'd be better off giving the money back in the form of lower taxes that way plenty will be spent and also some will take the chance to pay down their debts which helps the banks rebuild their balance sheets.

SingleSue

Martinslovechild wrote: »

They've also extended the timeframe for cars applicable for the allowance from 31 August 1999 to 29 February 2000, thereby covering V-Reg cars.

V Reg! That's virtually new!

Oh, what I would give to have a V Reg car......at the moment, my aspiration is for a T Reg.

shandypants5

SingleSue wrote: »

V Reg! That's virtually new!

Oh, what I would give to have a V Reg car......at the moment, my aspiration is for a T Reg.

:rotfl:
I am with you Sue.

With or without "scrappage" I am a long way off affording a new car.

I see the scheme as helping people who dont really need the help.

Like Generali said, the money could have been used more wisely.
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Graham_Devon

shandypants5 wrote: »

:rotfl:
I am with you Sue.

With or without "scrappage" I am a long way off affording a new car.

I see the scheme as helping people who dont really need the help.

Like Generali said, the money could have been used more wisely.

It's helping out the car industry, an industry that in this country could provide thousands upon thousands more unemployed if not artificially propped up through gimmicks to get us buying. It's not really helping the buyers, though some may "think" they are getting a good bargain, they are not really. For 1, car prices were put up about 5% on announcement of the scheme (or about 2 weeks after it was announced but before it was available). They were then put up yet again when the scheme actually started and the money was there. Secondly, if the government had not meddled, these people would have got an absolute bargain thanks to piling stocks, plus they would still have their old car to sell, not scrap, which has just put all those who can't afford a new car at a disadvantage as second user prices have shot up due to this manufactured lack of supply.

But the problem is, these job losses WILL come when we can no longer afford, or, justify this gimmick.

That will come once the election is sorted out and over and done with.

Really2

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