Enough is enough! Chuck 'em out

StevieJ

dervish wrote: »

I see no need for abusive posts like this about other MSErs...

But it OK if it is you

michaels

I keep hoping someone will notice I don't do anything (apart from Julie) and offer me a big redundancy but it hasn't happened yet so I'm afraid you will all have to put up with my posts for a while longer.

PasturesNew

I work hard. I work flat out for my contracted hours - and beyond for free, until the job's done. And the job's never done because bosses see how good/efficient I am and give me more.

And right now I am in an office doing a temp job and am surrounded by 2-3 people who spend the MAJORITY of their day surfing the net, phoning boyfriends, reading magazines, openly. I have been truly gobsmacked. I've never seen anybody openly not working before!

There's lots they could do, but they do the bare minimum. And when they're not working they're loud and annoying!

staffie1

PasturesNew wrote: »

I work hard. I work flat out for my contracted hours - and beyond for free, until the job's done. And the job's never done because bosses see how good/efficient I am and give me more.

And right now I am in an office doing a temp job and am surrounded by 2-3 people who spend the MAJORITY of their day surfing the net, phoning boyfriends, reading magazines, openly. I have been truly gobsmacked. I've never seen anybody openly not working before!

There's lots they could do, but they do the bare minimum. And when they're not working they're loud and annoying!

So where is the boss who is meant to be making sure these wasters are earning their money?

wolfman

Strange post. Surely it's the responsibility of the employer to fish out the dead wood. Unless of course it's the public sector, in which case it becomes a lot harder (send them to a post elsewhere... our man in 'x').

Not sure if you need to take their homes. If the employer is doing there job, of firstly employing someone competent, and secondly warning/firing anyone that gets slack. Then the people affected will eventually lose their house anyway through not having an income.

And if the company isn't doing their job properly, then it can potentially get affected on a larger scale. Darwinism applies in the business world too.

nicebelvoir wrote: »

Employment is a two way contract. If my employer fails to offer the kind of stimulating work with suitable reward then I'll make adjustments.

Hmm not sure if I agree with that. The employer isn't obliged to give you "stimulating" work. If you don't like it, then leave. You're paid to do a job regardless of it being stimulating. If you happen to find a job that you find stimulating and enjoyable, then you've found a good job.

lostinrates

mizzbiz wrote: »

In my experience, the ones that seem to work the hardest, long hours, overtime etc, are the ones who can't do their job and take double the amount of time of a competent person to do it. And the ones who continuously stay after work do it for the overtime money.
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Think it depends on the role/person.

My dad's employers are looking for his replacement. So far, in the last five years, ten people have been headhunted/recruted, only one made it passed 6 months without resigning/being shown not up to it. My dad is effectively on call 24/7. He also has staff working at all times every day of the year. He works most of the major holidays...feeling that one should be prepared to do what you aren't and he's never once taken his full holiday allowance.

DH also works long hours, but gets paid no overtime...but he's young and proving himself.

penguine

lostinrates wrote: »

DH also works long hours, but gets paid no overtime...but he's young and proving himself.

Someone I used to work with (a very dedicated and hardworking employee) told me once during a conversation about a workaholic colleague, that she herself didn't believe in working longer than her contracted hours. "I'm a socialist," she said, "and if I work extra hours then that's taking a job away from someone else."

I don't work longer than my contracted hours either, but that's just because I refuse to give away my time for free!

dervish

julieq wrote: »

Indeed, and it'd be nice not to have posts generalising and denigrating a section of the working population en masse, but hey, life is a broad church and all sorts of nutters get to post stuff on the internet. Learn to live with it, and if you can't take it, don't dish it out.

being abusive towards other MSErs is AGAINST the forum rules.

Making comments about soceital structures is not.

I have NEVER been rude or abusive towards any other MSEr.

Soubrette

dervish wrote: »

being abusive towards other MSErs is AGAINST the forum rules.

Making comments about soceital structures is not.

I have NEVER been rude or abusive towards any other MSEr.

Actually the rule is to be nice to all money savers. Isn't it money saving to come to a different country to better yourself while sending money back home for your much poorer family

You are scarily bigotted though :eek:

Sou

lostinrates

penguine wrote: »

Someone I used to work with (a very dedicated and hardworking employee) told me once during a conversation about a workaholic colleague, that she herself didn't believe in working longer than her contracted hours. "I'm a socialist," she said, "and if I work extra hours then that's taking a job away from someone else."

I don't work longer than my contracted hours either, but that's just because I refuse to give away my time for free!

DH opted out of EU work hours directive, as most in his role have to do. They don't have contracted hours so much as signing over therest of their working lives in return for a healthy salary.:rolleyes: Its not what would suit everyone though.