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Eating Well V's Eating Cheaply??

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  • savingforoz
    savingforoz Posts: 1,118 Forumite
    thriftlady wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking that any Tom !!!!!! or Gillian (:D ) can call themselves a nutritionist? Dietitians are the ones with a recognised qualification aren't they?
    /quote]

    No, no, no - there is a well recognised qualification in nutritional therapy, which requires a pre-course scientific training or background, then a demanding 3 year course in nutrition with many hours clinical practice. Dietitians work mainly in the NHS framework, often devising menus for hopspitals and schools and don't help resolve health issues through nutrition in the same way nutritional therapists do.
    Life is not a dress rehearsal.
  • Steve-o
    Steve-o Posts: 4,487 Forumite
    thriftlady wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking that any Tom !!!!!! or Gillian (:D ) can call themselves a nutritionist? Dietitians are the ones with a recognised qualification aren't they?

    That's correct. :D 'Dietitian' is a protected title, and means that they can't make up any old rubbish. Unlike "Doctor" Gillian McKieth, who isn't a medical doctor (but it's nice to stick the title on her products, to mislead people), and whose through-the-mail qualification is in "holistic nutrition" from a non-accredited US college.

    I'll get off my soapbox now. :D
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  • Steve-o
    Steve-o Posts: 4,487 Forumite
    thriftlady wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking that any Tom !!!!!! or Gillian (:D ) can call themselves a nutritionist? Dietitians are the ones with a recognised qualification aren't they?

    No, no, no - there is a well recognised qualification in nutritional therapy, which requires a pre-course scientific training or background, then a demanding 3 year course in nutrition with many hours clinical practice. Dietitians work mainly in the NHS framework, often devising menus for hopspitals and schools and don't help resolve health issues through nutrition in the same way nutritional therapists do.

    The title of Nutritionist is not protected, and can be used by anyone at all. What a 'nutritionist' tells you can also be anything that they want to make up, because that title is not protected. That is also why their role within the NHS is very restricted. Someone might have a perfectly accredited qualification in nutrition, but there are no guidelines on how they should pass on that knowledge.

    Dietitians DO help resolve health issues through nutrition: their core training is in nutrition, with the longer training focussing on how to apply it in a health setting. That is why they primarily work in the NHS. :rolleyes: To say that they "devise menus for hospitals and schools" is akin to saying that a mechanic changes the wipers on your car: factual, but missing out everything else that they do. :rotfl:
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  • savingforoz
    savingforoz Posts: 1,118 Forumite
    Wrong - your information is out of date.

    I should have known better than to bother posting...:mad: :mad: :mad:
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  • Steve-o
    Steve-o Posts: 4,487 Forumite
    Wrong - your information is out of date.

    I should have known better than to bother posting...:mad: :mad: :mad:

    Which bit?
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  • MissB_2
    MissB_2 Posts: 121 Forumite
    Steve-o wrote: »
    That's correct. :D 'Dietitian' is a protected title, and means that they can't make up any old rubbish. Unlike "Doctor" Gillian McKieth, who isn't a medical doctor (but it's nice to stick the title on her products, to mislead people), and whose through-the-mail qualification is in "holistic nutrition" from a non-accredited US college.

    I'll get off my soapbox now. :D

    'Doctor' Gillian McKeith is a 'real' doctor... after all that piece of paper she bought online tells us all so. Scary thought, isnt it? Might as well have been a Laird or Lady from a tin, methinks.
    I'd have picked a nicer line of work than poking and sniffing other folks' poo, if I'd had all the options though! :rotfl:

    With my Crohns if I eat badly I know all about it. Fatty foods make a noticable difference to me. Mind, some days just eating food means I know all about it :D
    I try for an elegant balance of both but I let myself have the treats - the weekly pizza, but try to makie my own in the hope that this might help towards the healthy ;)

    If we all ate really yummy, healthy salads etc... all the time it'd be boring and our bodies would miss other things from our diet. a good balance of all kinds of things - and whoopsies are a great way of doing the occasional treat! - must be better than one extreme or another?
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  • ceridwen
    ceridwen Posts: 11,547 Forumite
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    Okays.....on the mealplanning front then ..I can see it would be harder to think things out fully in advance when other people are involved....so howzabout working on the lines of doing the FULL mealplanning rundown for the week (as suggested by several of us) - but in hindsight.

    Rather than writing down what people plan to eat for the coming week - writing down what people have actually had over the past week. Covers all angles then:D
  • OrkneyStar
    OrkneyStar Posts: 7,025 Forumite
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    ceridwen wrote: »
    Okays.....on the mealplanning front then ..I can see it would be harder to think things out fully in advance when other people are involved....so howzabout working on the lines of doing the FULL mealplanning rundown for the week (as suggested by several of us) - but in hindsight.

    Rather than writing down what people plan to eat for the coming week - writing down what people have actually had over the past week. Covers all angles then:D
    Again, great in theory, but still too time consuming for me! If its every meal or nothing then I'd probably stop posting tbh! Of course it should not come to that :rolleyes:.
    Ermutigung wirkt immer besser als Verurteilung.
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  • rachbc
    rachbc Posts: 4,461 Forumite
    ceridwen wrote: »
    Okays.....on the mealplanning front then ..I can see it would be harder to think things out fully in advance when other people are involved....so howzabout working on the lines of doing the FULL mealplanning rundown for the week (as suggested by several of us) - but in hindsight.

    Rather than writing down what people plan to eat for the coming week - writing down what people have actually had over the past week. Covers all angles then:D

    But why? i don't feel I should have to justify what or why I eat to anyone...meal plans are about sharing ideas for ecomonical family meals- not a place for anyone to check out who is eating 'best' whatever that might mean
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  • Pink.
    Pink. Posts: 17,650 Forumite
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    ceridwen wrote: »
    Okays.....on the mealplanning front then ..I can see it would be harder to think things out fully in advance when other people are involved....so howzabout working on the lines of doing the FULL mealplanning rundown for the week (as suggested by several of us) - but in hindsight.

    Rather than writing down what people plan to eat for the coming week - writing down what people have actually had over the past week. Covers all angles then:D

    Why do you want us to do that?

    It would take forever to list every detail of what my family consumes on a daily basis. I know because my youngest son had to do it last week (Mon - Fri) just for himself, as the school is teaching nutrition and healthy eating. It was a nightmare trying to remember every detail of what he had to eat and drink throughout the day but a very valuable project and he learned a great deal.

    It might work for an individual who is concerned about their dietary habits to catalogue what they eat for a week, but for all Old Stylers to have to list all that their family eats and drinks on the meal plan threads would be a nonsense and in my opinion would make the threads which are interesting and inspirational into a dreadful chore for anyone posting their plan.

    Pink
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