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8 year old wants to earn money

Hi, my 8 year old son realised today that he has no money left in his money box. I said that if he wants more money he has to earn it like we do. He was excitedly thinking up ideas to make money and has to decided to set up a vegetable cart with his grandads spare veggies that he grows. His idea is that he fills his little hand pulled wagon and sells the veggies to neighbours etc. I have looked at child labour laws and it states that children cannot work for an employer until age 13. He will be working for himself so is this ok to do or are we going to get into trouble? I've searched the Internet and cannot find any answers and obviously want to stay on the right aide of the law. I expect this will be a five minute idea but I want to encourage this positive idea and think it will be a great learning opportunity for him.
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  • sephrenia
    sephrenia Posts: 216 Forumite
    It's great that your son wants to earn his own money and the example you've put forward is pretty good! One of the things I did with my son when he was that age, was to set up a little table outside the house with things he was willing to sell from his own toy collection, and sat with him while he did so that other kids wouldn't pick on him or try to take anything.

    Maybe that could work for him as well? Whatever he does, I wish him luck! :o
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  • CKhalvashi
    CKhalvashi Posts: 12,134 Forumite
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    Both my DD's are technically self-employed.

    They'll wash both off our cars and several down the street every few weeks for £5 a car. I've bought them a Vax and a pressure washer that they're paying back in installments at the moment at £5 each a week for a year, and they buy their materials.

    Technically, I suppose they should be registered for self-assessment and everything else, but I can hardly see Mr Taxman cracking down on 10 and 12yr olds earning some pocket money. If they've got no homework, our fleet manager lets them wash some of the company vehicles after school, as they're in the office with me for 2 hours. It gives them something to do, and keeps them out of the way of us grumpy lot on operations :)

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  • pjs_3
    pjs_3 Posts: 130 Forumite
    Thanks for the replies. I guess we will give it a go- we are talking pennies in profit so no tax issues. He is busy making a poster for the veggie cart now. I still cannot find any laws on him setting up his own business, all I found was that he cannot work for anyone else until he is 13 and then needs a work permit.
  • what they want to do is find a police officer with a speed gun,

    one goes just out of sight of the police officer with a sign saying warning speed trap ahead.

    the other waits the other side of the speed trap out of sight of the officer with a bucket and a sign saying "Tips please" chances are they will make more than minimum wage :D
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    edited 15 June 2013 at 9:41PM
    pjs wrote: »
    I still cannot find any laws on him setting up his own business, all I found was that he cannot work for anyone else until he is 13 and then needs a work permit.

    What about regulations governing the sale of food?

    Where will it be stored in between being picked and being sold? What regs govern its storage? Does your son need basic food hygiene training, or not?

    Etc etc ...

    http://food.gov.uk/business-industry/caterers/startingup/#.UbzRMPF5mSM
  • Manzila
    Manzila Posts: 10 Forumite
    I don't think this is time for your son to earn money. According to the law this may create trouble in future. You know that he is earning for himself but law, police won't understand this.
  • DaveTheGeordie
    DaveTheGeordie Posts: 222 Forumite
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    edited 17 June 2013 at 1:56AM
    pjs how about just click/rewards sites? I would have said surveys too but he's too young for that I think. Kind of slave labour but he could make £20 - £40 a month or more. Thing is though, if you are using these yourself already you need to be careful and make sure multiple accounts from the same place are allowed otherwise they may think you're scamming.

    I'd say the value of saving is important too. If he can learn that at a young age, that's a great setting up for his future.

    Edit: Slightly of educational too. I just go through each countries capital cities I can think of when doing travel searching. Dublin, Belfast, Reykjavik, Oslo...Good for pub quizzes when he's older? =)
  • COOLTRIKERCHICK
    COOLTRIKERCHICK Posts: 10,510 Forumite
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    googler wrote: »
    What about regulations governing the sale of food?

    Where will it be stored in between being picked and being sold? What regs govern its storage? Does your son need basic food hygiene training, or not?

    Etc etc ...

    http://food.gov.uk/business-industry/caterers/startingup/#.UbzRMPF5mSM
    I think this might be a bit extreme.:rotfl:

    what I can gather, we have an 8 year old who wants to make a few pennies extra, so grandad is going to give him a few veggies straight from his garden, so then he can go straight to some of the neighbours trying to sell them, if a neighbours kid came to my house doing this, I would def buy one or two bits, just to encourage him.. as the poster said, maybe after a few 'gos' he might get fed up.

    so lets put this into perspective, its an enthusiastic 8 year old, with an idea, dont get all adult on him...

    its better than him stealing stuff to try and get money
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  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    I think this might be a bit extreme.

    What's extreme about querying whether or not the food selling regulations apply to him?
  • COOLTRIKERCHICK
    COOLTRIKERCHICK Posts: 10,510 Forumite
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    googler wrote: »
    What's extreme about querying whether or not the food selling regulations apply to him?

    becuase its a 8 year old who's got a grand plan to sell some of grandad's veggies, which will prob amount to a cabbage, lettuce, a cucumber and a few carrots... his cart is prob a little pull-a-long thing, which will not be able to hold much..He will prob call to neighbours he knows, and you could prob count them on one hand.

    Its not as thoug he is selling stuff that has to be kept in a fridge etc. its bl00dy veg.

    'IF' you have put the heebeegeebees, and freightened the poster into not allowing their sone to do this, the way around it is to ask for 'donations' for the veg, so then tecnically you are NOT selling it...

    This little boy should be encouraged.
    Work to live= not live to work
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