State Pension / Deceased

GoingSolo · 27 November 2015 at 9:48AM

Our Mother passed away on the 9th Nov 2015 at approx 19:00. That's when we got the call.

I used to collect her pension for her but on the very same day I'd forgotten the pin number 3 times and locked the card

We have closed the account a few days back.

So I have two questions.

1. Was she entitled to the pension for that week in full or does say 6 days go back to the state?

2. We have a letter saying she qualified for the winter fuel payment. Does that still go ahead in full or does part of it go back to the state.

We're just waiting on the Pension department to write back to let us know how much was due to her given the date of passing.

Thanks in advance

le_loup · 27 November 2015 at 10:09AM

Depend whether pension was pain "in advance" or "in arrears". Pensions used to be paid in advance but now a new pensioner is paid in arrears.

greenglide · 27 November 2015 at 11:57AM

So it was paid weekly at the Post Office (via a POCA account)?

Depending on the date of death and the payday of the pension there may be an entitlement to arrears. If you have informed DWP of the death (phone the Pension Service - they have a special option on the phone menu) they will determine if there are arrears due and send you a form to fill in.

If there is one or more payments at the Post Office presumably they will be claimed via the post office - much the same as a bank account.

brewerdave · 27 November 2015 at 12:03PM

I've just been paid arrears after my mother's death -DWP paid a full week for the week she died in.

greenglide · 27 November 2015 at 12:34PM

The current State Pension is always paid in whole weeks (with the exception of "odd days" at the start of a claim which follows a period of working age benefits) and they pay for the whole week in which the death occurs.

When nSP starts anyone with an SPa date after 5/4/2016 will only be paid up to the date of death but, at least, they all get the "odd days" at the start to put them on the correct payday rather than just those who a receiving working age benefits.

The money is of more use to the claimant rather than the estate when they are dead.

Be_Happy · 27 November 2015 at 1:04PM

As regards the Winter Fuel payment. My mother died in October 7 years ago, but we received the full Winter Fuel payment for her in November, on the basis that she was alive at the qualifying date in September.

p00hsticks · 27 November 2015 at 1:05PM

GoingSolo wrote: »

2. We have a letter saying she qualified for the winter fuel payment. Does that still go ahead in full or does part of it go back to the state.

Sorry for your loss.

I can't find anything to back me up at present, but I'm pretty sure that as long as someone is alive during the 'qualifying week' for the Winter Fuel Payment (whcih is at the end of September) and meets the other qualifying critiera then they (or their estate) are entitled to the full amount even if they die shortly afterwards.

GoingSolo · 27 November 2015 at 2:36PM

FPI payment gone in bank today from unknown source but has ref number. No letter in post today so maybe that'll turn up soon from Pension dept to confirm it's from them. Looking it at the amount could be pension & heating allowance.

greenglide · 27 November 2015 at 4:39PM

So is this your mother's account? Have you not informed the bank and by now they should be bouncing transactions? The bank will also produce a cheque to pay the funeral costs if asked provided there is sufficient funds.

The winter fuel payment will have a reference which includes her NINO.

This is a BACS credit, not a faster payments payment.

I got my letter on Wednesday but I am not in receipt of a State Pension so my payment comes from the Winter Fuel Payments system, not the pension system - the timescales are different.

GoingSolo · 27 November 2015 at 4:48PM

Closed her account a week after passing by submitting paper work at Post Office with monies to be paid into my bank account if anything in her pension account.

Funeral plan was a private on one paid back in 2005 by my Mother

greenglide · 27 November 2015 at 9:52PM

FPI payment gone in bank today from unknown source but has ref number

Closed her account a week after passing by submitting paper work at Post Office with monies to be paid into my bank account if anything in her pension account.

So has this unidentified payment been paid into her POCA account and then forwarded to your account?

With a DoD of 7th November DWP should have known for some time (you did tell them?) and the WFP should never have been issued, having been issued either last weekend or the weekend before

State Pension / Deceased

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