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  • Martyn1981
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    This isn't really about PV, so probably sits better on this thread. It's actually about producing hydrocarbon fuels, either for transportation, or for later electricity generation (ie a dense form of storage). Using solar energy to produce fuel is important, as there is simply so, so much solar energy available to us.

    Breakthrough solar cell captures CO2 and sunlight to produce a burnable fuel
    Unlike conventional solar cells, the new device essentially does the work of plants, converting atmospheric carbon dioxide into fuel, solving two crucial problems at once. A solar farm of such “artificial leaves” could remove significant amounts of carbon from the atmosphere and produce energy-dense fuel efficiently.


    It's not a new idea, but efficiency has moved forward as detailed in this older article

    This Is How Good Solar-to-Fuel Conversion Can Be
    The idea of using sunlight to consume CO2 and make fuel “has been around for awhile, but the challenges have been too great and there hasn't been a nationally focused effort,” Bell adds.

    To date, reported solar-to-fuel efficiencies have been less than 7 percent, so reaching 18 to 20 percent would be a vast improvement, says Alexis Bell, professor of chemical engineering at the University of California, Berkeley, who led the research. Natural photosynthesis typically has an efficiency of between 0.5 percent and 1 percent, and is rarely higher than 2 percent.
    Bell envisions a scenario where such a solar-fuel device could be coupled with large solar energy installations. Surplus solar energy that is not immediately used as electricity could produce fuel that would be stored for a rainy day.

    This type of solar storage might be preferable to batteries, which typically have low energy density, Bell says. Today’s battery technology for storing solar energy could not supply electricity for a rainy week in the U.S. Midwest, he says.

    In addition, he says, while an attractive prospect is to obtain the carbon dioxide directly from the atmosphere, a more realistic solution would be to use carbon dioxide generated at natural gas wells. While there is a lot of CO2 in the atmosphere, he says, it is "too diffuse" for it to be a good source; so until cost effective methods are developed to gather and condense atmospheric carbon dioxide, artificial photosynthesis will need other sources.

    Fortunately (or unfortunately), there are currently plenty of man-made CO2 sources to choose from.

    Mart.
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  • Martyn1981
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    The Daily Telegraph is talking up renewables and storage, and talking down Hinkley. :shocked:

    Holy Grail of energy policy in sight as battery technology smashes the old order
    The world's next energy revolution is probably no more than five or ten years away. Cutting-edge research into cheap and clean forms of electricity storage is moving so fast that we may never again need to build 20th Century power plants in this country, let alone a nuclear white elephant such as Hinkley Point.

    Mart.
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  • Martyn1981
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    Mart. Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV systems (3.58 ESE & 2.0 WNW). Two A2A units for cleaner heating.

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  • Martyn1981
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    Solar and wind 'cheaper than new nuclear' by the time Hinkley is built
    An unpublished report by the energy department shows that it expects onshore wind power and large-scale solar to cost around £50-75 per megawatt hour of power generated in 2025. New nuclear is anticipated to be around £85-125/MWh, in line with the guaranteed price of £92.50/MWh that the government has offered Hinkley’s developer, EDF.

    Mart.
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  • Martyn1981
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    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    The Daily Telegraph is talking up renewables and storage, and talking down Hinkley. :shocked:

    Mart.

    And a few days later they are at it again, has the Telegraph finally seen the light?

    Britain's vast national gamble on wind power may yet pay off
    The biggest offshore companies have together vowed to cut costs to €80 per MWh - or £69 - by 2025. If so, the strike prices may start to match the wholesale price of electricity in the UK market. They may even come below the market price, in which case they will pay money back to society under Britain's 'contract for difference' system.

    The Government's next three offshore auctions will see a staggered fall in strike prices to a maximum of £85 per MWh by 2020, and they will arguably keep falling step by step thereafter until market forces prevail.

    The industry's research arm Inwind is already drawing up plans for the next generation of 10-20 MW turbines. The Sandia National Laboratories in the US are exploring 50 MW monsters with 'segmented ultralight morphing rotors' - once science fiction - that could in theory halve costs again.

    The reality is already remarkable. The European Wind Energy Association says the average 'capacity factor' for new offshore plants has risen to 42pc from 30pc a decade ago. The wind flows at sea are less variable than on land, and they can be anticipated.

    "The newest offshore wind farms deliver annual load factors around 50pc. Projects such as Dogger Bank have the potential to be even higher. The National Grid can predict tomorrow’s wind power more accurately than tomorrow’s electricity demand," says Matthew Knight from Siemens.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV systems (3.58 ESE & 2.0 WNW). Two A2A units for cleaner heating.

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  • Martyn1981
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    Emails Reveal UK Coal Industry's 'Urgent' Lobbying as Coal use Falls and Solar Power Soars

    Coal made up 30% of generation in 2014, 23% in 2015, and approx 16% over the last 12 months. All UK coal gen is to be closed by 2025.

    I'm not sure that coal lobbying is going to be successful, as even the leccy companies can't forsee any shortage in supply:-

    ALISTAIR PHILLIPS-DAVIES – DON’T MIND THE HINKLEY GAP
    Today there is now nearly twice as much generating capacity from new gas-fired power stations and offshore wind potentially waiting to come on to the country’s electricity system by 2025 as there is old coal and nuclear coming off.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV systems (3.58 ESE & 2.0 WNW). Two A2A units for cleaner heating.

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  • Martyn1981
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    Mart. Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV systems (3.58 ESE & 2.0 WNW). Two A2A units for cleaner heating.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • Martyn1981
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    Big BIG news today, is China and the US ratifying their agreement of the Paris Climate Change Deal.

    Paris climate deal: US and China announce ratification

    Between them, they account for 38% of emissions. For the agreement to enter into force, 55 (or more) signatory states have to ratify it, and those states have to represent 55% (or more) of the emissions.

    As at 1/9/2016, 24 states had already ratified the agreement, between them representing 1% of emissions. So today is a big leap forward on the percentage count.

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 5.58 kWp PV systems (3.58 ESE & 2.0 WNW). Two A2A units for cleaner heating.

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  • robbyfine
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    Hello, guys! I've recently found out some info about the Planetary Project ( http://planetaryproject.com/ ). Have you ever heard about it? It is a research concept designed to resolve global problems and help better conserve natural resources. I really pin hopes o that Project...
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    robbyfine wrote: »
    Hello, guys! I've recently found out some info about the Planetary Project ( http://planetaryproject.com/ ). Have you ever heard about it? It is a research concept designed to resolve global problems and help better conserve natural resources. I really pin hopes o that Project...
    Hi

    Looks more like a 'jobs for the boys' think-tank concept than anything else, probably a pretty poor one at that ... buy a suit & set up a climate centric think-tank with a website and then wait for the funding of 4x4s, international conferences and a jet-set business lifestyle to roll in - you'd be surprised how many 'institutes' fall into that category! ...

    I just ran the basic 'bu11sh1t bingo' test on the website and the results were totally as expected ... might be reasonably interesting for an average budget holding civil servant or clueless politician to waste public funds on, or fully deserving of like-minded 'group-think' organisation back-patting in a sun-soaked conference location, but the abundance of flowery language and lack of specifics on the website says it all really ....

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
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