Best Way To Clear My Debts

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Hope someone can point me in the right direction here.

Situation.
I have circa £23k in 3 credit card debts run up over many many years. Mainly the debt increased through the period where we had a single wage as my wife stayed at home to raise a family.

Both of us are now working and between us we earn around £42k before tax.

Only other significant debt is car loan with circa 6 months to run on a 5 year deal at £250 per month.

We have around £30k positive equity on our home which has around 12 years to completion.

Payment history on everything is excellent so credit rating should be decent.

At present on the credit cards we are paying the min monthly payment which is not ideal but keeps things ticking over. Not a great deal of extra cash to pay more than the min.

Problem.
Paying min monthly payment will take what seems like decades to clear the balance and leave us tight every month for cash. Almost a never ending story.

Ideal scenario.
I would like to take some kind of consolidation loan. Consolidate all the credit card payments into one monthly payment (around £575) and get the whole thing cleared for example over say 4 years assuming 10% interest rate (I would obviously look for the best rate).

All three cards are in my name leaving me at the top end of my borrowing capability meaning any application for anything new see's me burst through the lending ceiling and ultimately I would expect refusal. My wife has zero debt so I would guess we could transfer an element to her as the borrower.

Any advice on the best way forward, On the face of it we can afford to service the debt as it stands, the car loan cash freed up in 6 months will give us a bit of leeway. I just want to make the monthly payment with some sort of light at the end of the tunnel.

A secured loan with our own bank or a renowned lender would be considered as both our jobs are reasonably secure for the foreseeable future.

Any advice most welcome.
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  • obay
    obay Posts: 570 Forumite
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    Best thing to do is post an SOA so we can tell you, but the last thing you want to do is get another loan out, yes it may sound easier but it may be harder then you think..

    anyways, post an SOA. (Statement of Affairs)

    Sorry, also your mortgage you state you have around 30k positive? can you not borrow the extra cash of them and add it to the mortgage? (so again, just a simple monthly.)
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  • ~Beanie~
    ~Beanie~ Posts: 3,043 Forumite
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    I doubt you will get a loan for that size, it is over half your joint income.

    You probably won't get a secured loan either if there is only 30K equity in your property and you want to borrow 23K of that, it will take you over the LTV guidelines.

    As suggested above, post an SOA to give a clearer picture.
    :p
  • LittleMissGiggles123
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    Don't get a secured loan on your property. If for whatever reason ou were unable to pay, you put your family home at risk.

    Post an SOA so people can give you advice on where to cut back so that you can overpay on your credit cards, even a £1 over the minimm montly payment will make a difference.

    Consolidation usually isn't successful because in most cases people clear the cards with the loan money & then spend on the cards again, so doubling the debt!

    Good luck

    x
  • orcocan
    orcocan Posts: 271 Forumite
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    consolidation could be an option however it seems to me that BEFORE you think about that, you need to make sure you live well within your means, which doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. You mention that you end up being really tight at the end of each month, so the fundamental issue is balancing the books and having a consistent and healthy excess to repay your debt with every month, before you think of doing anything else.

    Post your SOA here and many people will give you good advice.

    Best of luck! :-)
  • HP550
    HP550 Posts: 22 Forumite
    edited 21 August 2012 at 7:12PM
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    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 3
    Number of children in household......... 1
    Number of cars owned.................... 1

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 1660
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 905
    Benefits................................ 81
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2646


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 672
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 259
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 128
    Electricity............................. 55
    Gas..................................... 95
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 0
    Telephone (land line)................... 24
    Mobile phone............................ 56
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 23
    Internet Services....................... 30
    Groceries etc. ......................... 400
    Clothing................................ 100
    Petrol/diesel........................... 150
    Road tax................................ 12
    Car Insurance........................... 55
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 20
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 15
    Buildings insurance..................... 15
    Contents insurance...................... 20
    Life assurance ......................... 30
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2171



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 115000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 6500
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 121500



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 85000....(672)......0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 1500.....(259)......0
    Total secured & HP debts...... 86500.....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Egg............................13000.....360.......0
    Virgin ........................5000......105.......0
    Halifax........................5000......120.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........23000.....585.......-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 2,646
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,171
    Available for debt repayments........... 475
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 585
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -110


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 121,500
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -86,500
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -23,000
    Net Assets.............................. 12,000


    Created using the SOA calculator at https://www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.


    The shortfall it shows for making payments to unsecured debt would come from the "other expenses". Lets just say I am waiting on pay day every month with the last week getting tight. All payments are covered regardless.
  • orcocan
    orcocan Posts: 271 Forumite
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    gas seems very high, have you shopped around?

    cut sky, you don't need it, freeview has plenty of channels

    internet you can halve that, 10-15 quid per month you can get good packages

    mobile phone seems too high, move to payasyougo with say giffgaff, 10 quid a month

    plenty of room to cut on your groceries and clothing, you can easily save 200 a month

    might not be easy to adjust to a lifestyle you're not used to, but it needs to be done... once you're debt free you'll reconsider

    best of luck!
  • mum2one
    mum2one Posts: 16,279 Forumite
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    HP550 wrote: »
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 3
    Number of children in household......... 1
    Number of cars owned.................... 1

    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1660
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 905
    Benefits................................ 81
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2646

    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 672
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 259
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 128
    Electricity............................. 55 - that seems high, are you leaving lights on, equipment on standby as standby uses 90% of elec of item being on
    Gas..................................... 95 - that seems really high, is there arrears
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 0
    Telephone (land line)................... 24
    Mobile phone............................ 56 - high, consider pay and go, sim only, if contract ask of you can reduce a tariff
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 23
    Internet Services....................... 30 - def high, shop around, or see if you can do a multi deal package
    Groceries etc. ......................... 400
    Clothing................................ 100
    Petrol/diesel........................... 150
    Road tax................................ 12
    Car Insurance........................... 55 - 1 car?? shop around at renewal,
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 20
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0 - sorry to ask but no dentist, opticians etc??
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 15
    Buildings insurance..................... 15 - at renewal shop around, some may be cheaper as joint, others single policies
    Contents insurance...................... 20
    Life assurance ......................... 30
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0 - usually something in presents
    Haircuts................................ 0 - is this right?
    Entertainment........................... 0 (ditto till bottom)
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2171


    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 115000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 6500
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 121500


    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 85000....(672)......0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 1500.....(259)......0
    Total secured & HP debts...... 86500.....-.........-

    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Egg............................13000.....360.......0
    Virgin ........................5000......105.......0
    Halifax........................5000......120.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........23000.....585.......-


    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 2,646
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,171
    Available for debt repayments........... 475
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 585
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -110

    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 121,500
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -86,500
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -23,000
    Net Assets.............................. 12,000

    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.

    The shortfall it shows for making payments to unsecured debt would come from the "other expenses". Lets just say I am waiting on pay day every month with the last week getting tight. All payments are covered regardless.

    What I would suggest keep a spending diary and list every penny, at the mo the car loan jumps out as the fore runner, ok theres 6 mths left, but getting through the 6 mths

    i've popped a few suggestions, on, it may seem like I'm adding extras, but want you to be sure that everything is accounted for.

    Groceries, gas, sky, internet, phone, if you could tackle these then that would certainly make a dent in the £110. xx
    xx rip dad... we had our ups and downs but we’re always be family xx
  • obay
    obay Posts: 570 Forumite
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    HP550 wrote: »
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 3
    Number of children in household......... 1
    Number of cars owned.................... 1

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 1660
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 905
    Benefits................................ 81
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2646


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 672
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 259
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 128
    Electricity............................. 55 - this seems very high have you shopped around like places such as utlity warehouse? they offer duel services on one bill.
    Gas..................................... 95 as above.
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 0
    Telephone (land line)................... 24 again, you can reduce this to a one of fee (including phone and internet) from utlityware house (i reconmened them as I am with them and pay no more then £73.90 a month for phone, broadband, gas and electric)
    Mobile phone............................ 56 again very high, when does your commitment end?
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 23 what's this sky? If so cancel your contract normal tv is enough now-a-days
    Internet Services....................... 30 you could reduce this to 19.99 with utlity warehouse
    Groceries etc. ......................... 400 seems high! Have you gone to cheaper supermarket brands?
    Clothing................................ 100
    Petrol/diesel........................... 150
    Road tax................................ 12
    Car Insurance........................... 55
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 20
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 15
    Buildings insurance..................... 15
    Contents insurance...................... 20
    Life assurance ......................... 30
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0nothing here?
    Haircuts................................ 0no hair cuts?
    Entertainment........................... 0no fun in your life??
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0put something in here ASAP!
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2171



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 115000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 6500
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 121500



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 85000....(672)......0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 1500.....(259)......0
    Total secured & HP debts...... 86500.....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Egg............................13000.....360.......0
    Virgin ........................5000......105.......0
    Halifax........................5000......120.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........23000.....585.......-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 2,646
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,171
    Available for debt repayments........... 475
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 585
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -110


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 121,500
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -86,500
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -23,000
    Net Assets.............................. 12,000


    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.


    The shortfall it shows for making payments to unsecured debt would come from the "other expenses". Lets just say I am waiting on pay day every month with the last week getting tight. All payments are covered regardless.

    look @ above you can try and save, try going for a loan to get a one off monthly payment or one card for all your debts..
    [STRIKE]1/12/16 - £152,599.00 [/STRIKE]
    [STRIKE]11/11/17 - £145,990.00 [/STRIKE] <> Overpaid £3916.
    11/11/18 - £142,074.00
    Barclays Car (5.99%)£0/£8,832.37
  • LittleMissGiggles123
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    Clothing - £100 per month!! Really high. Go without for a few months

    x
  • LondonGirl252
    LondonGirl252 Posts: 1,983 Forumite
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    Hi

    Well done on realising you need to sort the problem out, I read a while ago that over half of consolidation loans lead to more debt than orginally. I made this mistake too and it ended up with me doubling my debt because like yourselves my lifestyle was unsustainable on my budget.

    I took the advice like you've been given above and its amazing how much you can cut down when you really put your all into it and the debt will be gone much quicker than if you take out even more debt.

    Use www.whatsthecost.com to work out your "snowball" it shows you which debt you should concentrate on paying off first, work on them one at a time and before long you will see a differnce.

    If your wife can get credit a 0% balance transfer might be adviseable as long as you do cancel the card you clear, this will reduce the interest you're charged

    Good Luck
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