MSE News: MPs demand rethink of women's state pension changes

Lets just rename this section "WASPI AND MSE Love-in section. Or the MSE spamming section (as the board staff wouldnt let a normal poster repeat the same threads so many times)


Not sure the title actually reflects what happened. MPs did not demand anything. It was a non-binding vote where a small number of MPs voted knowing that they had nothing to gain from voting against. A real vote with consequences would be different.

Much in the same way as MSE supported the highly flawed WASPI campaign (which was possibly more damaging to the debate than beneficial) as it was thinking about its image too.

I think its not only right but important that MSE is independent on what it supports and does not support. That is and should be the decision of MSE alone.

Absolutely correct. However, we should not forget that it is a commercial entity that will make decisions in its own interests. Plus, it does provide us with a discussion board to discuss issues and by posting on this forum and publishing its opinion, it has allowed us to offer our opinion and discussion on the matter.

And lets not create another multi-page thread regurgitating the same old stuff that has repeated on all the other threads on the same subject. It has been done to death already.

dunstonh wrote: »

Not sure the title actually reflects what happened. MPs did not demand anything. It was a non-binding vote where a small number of MPs voted knowing that they had nothing to gain from voting against. A real vote with consequences would be different.

Yes, this type of debate seems completely pointless, it doesn't change anything. It wasn't even reported on the news this evening, no mention of it on the BBC news website either, even on the politics page!

Wonderful. Another thread.

If the myopic WASPI campaigners had sought to focus on those who really count.. the financially excluded, they may have got somewhere with this. As it is, greed and self interest dictated that the g'ment (rightly so) paid it the scant regard it required. One MP referred to a constituent who planned to retire early in two months hence and was disgusted to learn her SOA age was 65. Sorry, that's not planning. One of the campaign founders suggested DWP couldn't write to her because they didn't know her address. I'm assuming she forgot to tell them she decided to take twelve months off from running a bust community centre to go and live in Greece. Sorry, if you can do both, there's no excuse not to at least check your SPA at least once in twenty years.

Another lady suggested last night that she wished she lived in Eastern Europe where these changes are deferred until 2040. You crack on pet, life expectancy is seventy three and I hear the Crimea is nice at this time of year. The loony left who didn't even bother to cost this, tub thumped and played to the galleries; they had nothing to lose. The Jocks knew it was unaffordable, knew it would get nowhere so by making political capital they raised the hopes of women needlessly. End result; lots of crass campaigning, lots of unreasonable expectations and as a result, those who really do need the help.. those who know even know about Twitter or Martin blummin Lewis lose out.

Well done everyone. I hope you're proud; you screwed it up with your trendy lack of strategy, acumen and insight because you didn't think it through, you didn't look to yourselves and you were greedy - you ran a deceitful, nasty and malicious campaign and you thought that Twitter froth would cause the g'ment to fold and spend £40bns up threading the consequences of your laziness and self neglect. Let us know the next time you want to run a campaign would you, and I'll be certain not to spend too much time and effort getting behind it. Who now is there to campaign for the ladies destitute, penniless and bereft of hope? You? I doubt it, you'll be too busy roaming social media looking for the next cause intended to raise your own profiles. Angry? You bet.

Al. wrote: »

Another lady suggested last night that she wished she lived in Eastern Europe where these changes are deferred until 2040.

Is there any way we could arrange that? Why should we reward anyone just because they had a misguided sense of entitlement?

I love how they definitely knew that their SPA was 60, but since then they have somehow avoided every single mention of it rising in the news and media ever since. If a man was deluded about what pension he would receive then would people be running around signing petitions?

Women keep telling us they earn less money, therefore they pay less tax. Why should a group who contributes less get a better deal than those who contribute more?