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Virgin Fares Double For Railcard Holders On Peak Trains

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  • Virgin Trains passengers with a railcard will no longer be able to buy off-peak fares for use on peak journeys...
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    Virgin Trains passengers face fares increase as it axes railcard perk

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  • A_Flock_Of_Sheep
    A_Flock_Of_Sheep Posts: 5,332 Forumite
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    edited 26 August 2015 at 3:18PM
    I never even knew this discount existed. I have a disable railcard and use Virgin Trains now and then but travel Off Peak. I think...

    When exactly is "Off Peak"?

    At some of the eye watering prices I have seen for fares on Virgin (who seem to now have the monopoly on long distance travel as they run East Coast too) I would prefer to drive my own car.

    I looked for a ticket to Newcastle (journey time over 8 hours) from the Isle of Wight last week and it was £101 for the saver fare using my railcard (without the cost of the ferry to the mainland) yet I could a cheaper price by flying from Southampton to Newcastle on FlyBe taking only 1h 20mins plus my travel to the airports. I also of course get NO discount on FlyBe - that was their full adult fare.
  • Kite2010
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    Nice stock image of a pair of Crosscountry voyagers used in the article rather than Virgin which is what the story is about ;)
  • Just looked up...

    £174 for a peak time return from London to Birmingham. Journey time 1h 25 mins.

    Virgin Trains = Robbers.

    Lord knows how much they will rip you off to go to Manchester or Liverpool.

    Rail fares in Europe aren't as expensive as this and their trains are fast and not slow old wrecks like we have.
  • Q: We have just completed refurbishments on our Pendolino fleet to create an extra 5,500 Standard class seats a day, so there are plenty of seats available on board our services.

    So that mean folk will be even more compressed and shoe horned into those rail mounted tin cans.
  • A Flock Of Sheep - Peak times depend on where you're travelling to and from. There is a PDF detailing these on Virgin's website - https://www.virgintrains.co.uk/tickets/your-ticket/ways-to-save

    Kite2010 - Good spot, we take our images from a stock database. I will see if it has one of the Virgin West Coast trains.
  • shinkyshonky
    shinkyshonky Posts: 2,782 Forumite
    All needs to be renationalised ...and soon , come on Corbyn
    “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” Socrates

    Haters gonna hate
  • yorkie2
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    mathsus wrote: »
    FYI everyone - the virgin website still quotes off peak prices for peak journeys with a Senior Railcard well beyond Oct 12th! (Though I haven't gone past the first page and on to actual payment.) If they let me book a seat on an actual peak train, surely they would have to honour it??
    They would indeed have to honour it.
  • yorkie2
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    Just looked up...

    £174 for a peak time return from London to Birmingham. Journey time 1h 25 mins.
    I would not recommend that ticket, unless you had to be in Birmingham very early and had to return also very early in the morning.

    Instead, look at London Marylebone to Birmingham Moor Street. £49 for a walk-up flexible Off Peak Return (SVR), will get you to Birmingham for 0853.
  • yorkie2
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    I never even knew this discount existed. I have a disable railcard and use Virgin Trains now and then but travel Off Peak. I think...

    When exactly is "Off Peak"?
    We can't answer that as you've not said where you're travelling from and to. If you can tell us that, we can look it up for you. Or you can find out yourself at https://www.brfares.com
    I looked for a ticket to Newcastle (journey time over 8 hours) from the Isle of Wight last week and it was £101 for the saver fare using my railcard (without the cost of the ferry to the mainland) yet I could a cheaper price by flying from Southampton to Newcastle on FlyBe taking only 1h 20mins plus my travel to the airports. I also of course get NO discount on FlyBe - that was their full adult fare.
    I had a look at the FlyBe website for next week, and found that a fare from Newcastle to Southampton which allows some flexibility and decent size luggage is actually £359 return.

    It was possible to get a return flight for £109, however that is a fixed-flight ticket which is not comparable with a walk-up, flexible train ticket.
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