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MSE News: Government reveals more details of Help To Buy guarantee scheme

"The Government today insisted only credit-worthy borrowers will be able to buy homes under its new Help to Buy scheme..."
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Government reveals more details of Help To Buy guarantee scheme

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  • jobdone1
    jobdone1 Posts: 841 Forumite
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    Racking up future debt. Great idea """"
  • a1a1a1
    a1a1a1 Posts: 43 Forumite
    Is this available for remortgages?
  • brit1234
    brit1234 Posts: 5,385 Forumite
    a1a1a1 wrote: »
    Is this available for remortgages?

    No.


    It's a shameless program to keep house prices overinflated by encouraging sub prime lending putting tax payers money at risk.

    Any one would think there is an election coming in 2 years.
    :exclamatiScams - Shared Equity, Shared Ownership, Newbuy, Firstbuy and Help to Buy.

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  • witchy1066
    witchy1066 Posts: 640 Forumite
    brit1234 wrote: »
    No.


    It's a shameless program to keep house prices overinflated by encouraging sub prime lending putting tax payers money at risk.

    Any one would think there is an election coming in 2 years.

    :T

    tell it like it is , not like you :rotfl:
  • To some people it will be a good scheme. Even with paying a premium on the new builds, if you have only 5% deposit you will get much better rates than buying an older property with bigger deposit.

    House prices will always be overinflated, dont kid yourself in thinking they will drop...
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    To some people it will be a good scheme. Even with paying a premium on the new builds, if you have only 5% deposit you will get much better rates than buying an older property with bigger deposit.
    House prices will always be overinflated, dont kid yourself in thinking they
    will drop...


    Really?, so can you explain why in the recession of the early 90,s house prices outside London fell through the floor.Interest rates rose to 15% in the past and keys were being handed back to the banks hand over fist.. Don't kid yourself house prices will always be overinflated.

    Truth is until stupid people wake up and realise house prices need to be in line with earnings then they won't fall to an affordable level. We need a massive house building programme to build cheap,affordable houses.The house builders won't flood the market as the current situation suits them just fine with nice high profit margins and sitting on huge landbanks..

    Why should I as a taxpayer subsidise someones house owning asperations when in truth most can't afford one.

    When the Condems run out of ideas on how to prop up the housing market what do you think will happen?......sh*t will hit the fan big time.
  • Pincher
    Pincher Posts: 6,552 Forumite
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    Never again, Learn our lesson, hahaha.

    I talked to a twenty something woman, and she doesn't even know who Simon and Garfunkel were.

    There are 21 year old graduates who probably don't remember the subprime crisis, because they were 15 years old. Subprime probably means skanky women whom you don't want to pick up on Friday nights to them.

    Idiots want to borrow at 95%, and lenders want to lend to them at 8% high risk rate, because they have worked out you lose a few, but the overall return is still good. Is there a bigger word than idiot: try Braindead Moron. Only a BM government would step in and guarantee the loan and promise to pay the blood sucking lender, who is getting the high risk rate of return, WITHOUT THE RISK.
  • jobdone1 wrote: »
    Racking up future debt. Great idea """"

    Disagree. If you don't want 'debt' don't buy a house. You are buying an asset, not taking on debt. All this is allowing you do is get a better rate of funding on that asset. I will most definitely be partaking!
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    edited 24 July 2013 at 4:50PM
    a_d_k_80 wrote: »
    Disagree. If you don't want 'debt' don't buy a house. You are buying an asset, not taking on debt. All this is allowing you do is get a better rate of funding on that asset. I will most definitely be partaking!

    You contradicted yourself in the first sentance....
    Lol, you are joking........Any asset can and does rise/fall in value and if you owe more than the asset is worth at any one time thats a debt my friend, anything you buy with borrowed money is debt.........You need to read some books on economics before you buy a house.......;)

    PS : Look at the Gold market.Are you telling me that if you buy a Gold sovereign it will always rise in value?........

    If you do partake I hope you have a plan to repay the 20% government funded contribution other than HPI (Thats House Price Inflation by the way)..
  • Thank you for the advice but I work in the industry and know what I'm talking about. I'm not saying the asset can't fluctuate in value. But for me it is about opportunity cost. If I am to be lent 15% of the value for 5 years at 0% (which I already have) and I can invest it @ > loan interest rate (+ / - the fall....or rise in asset value) it is profitable. For me, being in the investment industry, I have full faith in being able to do that, hence I find it a good thing. I am not saying it is good for everyone.....but what I was saying is that making a comment about just viewing it as taking on debt is inaccurate. It is 'debt' that you NEED to take on to buy a house. It is only making it CHEAPER debt. But of course, if you have a particularly pessimistic view on the housing market, don't do it!
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