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Discount vs Tracker

Hi

Just about to remortage with HSBC and had decided to go with the no fee base rate plus 0.99% lifetime tracker (5.99% currently) and see what happens. However have just seen their new 2 year discount rate of standard variable rate (currentl 6.25%) minus 0.62% (currently 5.63%) with a fee of £249. Mortgage only just over £100k any thoughts?

Thanks
Debzi
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  • minimike2
    minimike2 Posts: 2,210 Forumite
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    I usually suggest a tracker over a discount. Reason being if base were to go up by 0.25% the tracker would have to do the same, but with the discount the lender could increase by .35% for example. They could also increase the rate for any reason they like, not just due to any change in base.

    With a tracker you know where you are, with a discount you leave yourself wide open.
  • DebbieMcM
    DebbieMcM Posts: 10 Forumite
    Thanks for that. I appreciate the possibility of the lender not treating the tracker and discount rates the same and if the rate was starting the same I would always go with the tracker. However the 0.36% difference in the rate gives quite a bit of leeway before the discount is more expensive, but also there is the £249 fee. Ahhh I don't know, any other thoughts?
  • As minimike2 suggests... trackers are probably the best bet at the moment, you know where you stand with them... banks can do what they like with a discount rate... ;)
    :D
  • natman
    natman Posts: 507 Forumite
    Hi,
    I have had a tracker for 9 years - 0.5% above base rate.
    One thing is for me - it will never be the best ever rate, but to get the best rate you normally have to change frequently, and then pay set up fees, exit fees etc etc.
    Base rate trackers will nver be the worst -

    over the last nine years i know that any change gets passed on to me - good and bad, like the other posts above - the bank cant decide ad hoc to just put the rates up cos there skint or for any other reason.
    I would have a tracker again,mainly becasue if you go on a discount, in two, three or four years time, the prices of going on to deals is unknown - at present have seen £999 set up fees, what a joke.

    Tracker all day for me!!!!!
    :rotfl:
  • DebbieMcM
    DebbieMcM Posts: 10 Forumite
    Thanks again folks.

    I have heard that HSBC are pretty good with passing on base rate cuts to their standard variable rate. Would that sway anyone, as it's looking like that tracker at the moment?
  • Gorgeous_George
    Gorgeous_George Posts: 7,964 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Assuming the SVR remains 1.25% above base and all the other variables are the same, the 2 year deal is £402 cheaper over 2 years.

    At the end of two years, who knows what will be around. Locking in to base rate now may be wise if you can afford rises of 1 - 1.5% (I cannot see base rate rising to more than 6.5% over the next ten years (How's that for sticking my neck out!).

    Of course, it's not my finances that I'm playing with.

    GG
    There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't.
  • Newbird
    Newbird Posts: 488 Forumite
    I cannot see base rate rising to more than 6.5% over the next ten years GG

    :question: Curious as to what this thinking is based around GG. :confused:

    That's not to say that I'm disagreeing, or willing to stick my neck out that far with you just yet...I'm just pondering this and wondering if your thoughts are politically or economically based?
    PM me if you prefer...
    Bless Martin's Little Cotton Socks. I thank him for giving us MSE. Look what its grown into!

    MFW = ASAP #124
  • straddie
    straddie Posts: 138 Forumite
    Newbird wrote: »
    :question: Curious as to what this thinking is based around GG. :confused:

    That's not to say that I'm disagreeing, or willing to stick my neck out that far with you just yet...I'm just pondering this and wondering if your thoughts are politically or economically based?
    PM me if you prefer...
    I'm also interested, as I'm weighing up whether to get a tracker or a fixed at the moment. If you have any good reasons for why you think this I'd love to hear them!
  • Newbird
    Newbird Posts: 488 Forumite
    Its a difficult one, the I feel the banks are worried about their own housekeeping, and rightly so, with the problems securing funds...this is why the fixed rate deals are going up and up everyday as they get nervous and withdraw them, as funds secured run out with the take up of the offers...as a lot of nervy types who need a mort are now scrambling to get the lowest fixes they can...and even the BR trackers are now offered at a lot over what they were earlier this year....so do we take this a further warning? but is the big meltdown over egged by the multi hype frenzy thats going on...

    Spose the choice depends how brave you are....or others will argue, how stoopid! (to be brave?)

    Fixed you could end up paying more, if this bothers you enuf then Tracker may be best with the thought that you gave it the benefit of the doubt? but what price the doubt?

    A 1% BR increase would make a significant difference to your monthly payment, unless you have a low outstanding capital amount - but then will it jump up that harshly or will the base rate be nudged up in fractions???? I think we are all agreed it is only going up for the foreseeable....

    Altho the UK is affected in a big way now from outside influences, oil, bank lending etc I do still think the current Govt. will be trying/hoping to keep the base rate down..if possible, as they are with juggling the inflation figs at the mo, what a laugh! they are not fooling anyone.
    We know there will a general election within the next 2 years, and if the Cons get in, they would also need to quickly address the inflation issue, (depending when the election is and how the dire the situation is at that point)and so will also be doing their best to ease the situation and keep the BR low to please the electorate....I'm wondering if they will make manifesto promises on this before the election..or whether they won't be able to stick their necks out either...Hmmmmm :think:

    I have not had time to read up on this, this is purely off the top of my head...
    Interesting to hear anymore thoughts, espesh from anyone better informed that has read up and are keeping up!

    GG - anyone? Maybe we need a new thread on this?

    I'll try and catch the Daily Politics show (hoping they are looking at more than just Mugabe) at 11.30, oh I do miss the Working Lunch quick fix of info when the tennis is on...
    Bless Martin's Little Cotton Socks. I thank him for giving us MSE. Look what its grown into!

    MFW = ASAP #124
  • Newbird
    Newbird Posts: 488 Forumite
    OP, I'm leaning at a dangerous angle towards HSBC LTracker as well, can't find anything else to beat it! Or is there??????????????
    Bless Martin's Little Cotton Socks. I thank him for giving us MSE. Look what its grown into!

    MFW = ASAP #124
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