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Quidco - is income payment in kind?

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johnmc
johnmc Posts: 1,265 Forumite
It has been suggested that I should declare any profits from Quidco to the tax man as they are payment in kind.

My view is that they are a negotiated rebate, thus just a reduaction in the purchase price.

Any thoughts?

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  • Mikeyorks
    Mikeyorks Posts: 10,377 Forumite
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    That you are right. It's not income ..... it's just a discount.
    If you want to test the depth of the water .........don't use both feet !
  • PBA
    PBA Posts: 1,521 Forumite
    Mikeyorks wrote: »
    That you are right. It's not income ..... it's just a discount.
    That's clear with some of the offers, giving a %age back of your spend. The offers where you get free money for using a comparison site or getting an insurance quote though I'd imagine are classed as income, as you're making money by using it rather than just getting a discount.
  • Mikeyorks
    Mikeyorks Posts: 10,377 Forumite
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    That's a fair point ... but not, apparently, one that HMRC recognise. The only 'cashback' that's considered for tax (IT or CGT) is when it is part of employment. (Example here which relates to Mtge cashbacks .. you need to use the previous / next page to see some of the detail)

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/CG1manual/cg13027.htm

    Otherwise we'd all have to register as self-employed in respect of the 'click through' cash. And I'd personally consider the cashback from Insurances etc is still 'discount'?

    Later

    Picked this, well researched, response up from an older thread on the same subject :
    The Inland Revenue Statement of Practice No: 4 of 1997 deals comprehensively with the taxation of cashbacks and similar payments. See details on page 170 onwards (and in particular B7 page 172) in this document: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/practitioners/sop.pdf

    I have extracted the relevant paragraph to assist:
    Quote:B7 - In general, ordinary retail customers purchasing goods, investments or services at arm's length will not be liable to income or capital gains tax in respect of any commission, discounts or cashbacks received by them.


    So in the normal course of events, anyone earning cashback on their credit card for their own purchases would not be liable to tax nor would someone earning cashback on the completion of their own mortgage or purchasing their own car.
    If you want to test the depth of the water .........don't use both feet !
  • johnmc
    johnmc Posts: 1,265 Forumite
    Thanks for that. Now I can sleep easy in my bed without having to worry about a knock on the door from the Revenue ..........

    ................ as if!
  • johnllew
    johnllew Posts: 1,928 Forumite
    Mikeyorks - I think that's one of my quotes. Do you have the link as I remember there was more to it than your extract.
  • Mikeyorks
    Mikeyorks Posts: 10,377 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    johnllew wrote: »
    Mikeyorks - I think that's one of my quotes. Do you have the link as I remember there was more to it than your extract.

    Indeed it appears to be (if you're 'JL' on the Rpoints site?). Picked up the link, thank you, from post #3 here :-

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=275715&highlight=cashback
    If you want to test the depth of the water .........don't use both feet !
  • johnllew
    johnllew Posts: 1,928 Forumite
    Thanks for finding that:
    johnllew wrote: »
    It depends what it is for. If it's cashback on personal purchases then it won't be taxable. If it's cashback on items you've purchased for your business or employment, then it is. Instances where you get cashback for no outlay may also be taxable especially where multiple transactions are made. This topic was discussed in more detail here: Cashback and the Taxman and here: Should I be declaring my rpoints for tax purposes?
  • RainbowChild_2
    RainbowChild_2 Posts: 1,219 Forumite
    Interesting thread, I was wondering this too. Thanks for clearing that up :)
    Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. ~Confucius
  • SiuLoong
    SiuLoong Posts: 218 Forumite
    I was wondering this too after reading the FAQ on the 'Cashback Rewards' site:


    Do I have to pay tax on my rewards?

    You may have to pay tax on your Cashback. It is your responsibility to declare your earnings to the Inland Revenue and pay any taxes that may be due.


    As I am PAYE at work it would seem stupid to have to go through the faff of self assessment simply to declare the few pounds I make through Quidco and a couple of other similar sites.. Thanks to all above for clearing it up, looks like Cashback Rewards are just covering their backs and in the process confusing the rest of us!
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