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Becoming debt-free and staying debt-free; Top Tips
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masterkay
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I’m a big fan of the debt-free forum. I may not post much on it but I like reading it. I think it should be called debt-free wannabe and staying debt-free as all the advice given here can be applied to those of us who don’t have debts as well.
I was making my revised budget like I do every month and I thought I would start a thread for top tips for becoming and staying debt-free.
Obviously the tips posted here are what works for each of us (please join in) and may not work for all of us but it may inspire you.
My top tips are as follows:
I’m stating the obvious with the tips but knowing these things and doing them are completely different. Hopefully, pointing them out will help people jump into action.
As I said before these work for me or people I know, please don’t take offence at them if they go against how you save money or if you think they are silly.
Happy Moneysaving
I was making my revised budget like I do every month and I thought I would start a thread for top tips for becoming and staying debt-free.
Obviously the tips posted here are what works for each of us (please join in) and may not work for all of us but it may inspire you.
My top tips are as follows:
- Budget/Plan. Spend time carefully budgeting and do it on different scales. Have a yearly, monthly, weekly and if you are really anal, daily budget. The different scales help you see the big picture and the finer details. I find my yearly budget gives me perspective and I don’t get down when a minor set-back happens because the bigger picture will swallow it up. The smaller-scale budgets help me focus, identify areas where I can cut-back, and is where I save the most. If something is not making sense in your budget or you cannot see how to cut back, take a different view of it.
- Review and Revise. Don’t create a yearly-monthly-weekly budget in January and try and stick to it for the whole year. Circumstances change, your own life and the world around you. What is right for you now might not be in two months. If you are in the wrong budget, it’s not going to work; you are going to feel bad that you cannot work with the budget and more likely to give up. Remember simple things like gaining/losing a pet, your car getting older and needing more work/becoming less efficient, your children going through a growth spurt and eating you out of house and home will have an affect on your budget. Even if you think nothing has changed always look at your budget and see what is going on as chances are your original budget may not have been as accurate as you thought. You may be consistently going over your grocery budget even when being careful but spending less on clothes than you thought. Moving some of the clothing budget to groceries doesn’t actually change how much you spend but will make you feel better within yourself as you are making your budget work.
- Avoid all or nothing situations. Many people fall in the trap of spending all their money in the first couple of weeks of the month and then living on very little. It is tempting but I have found this approach is bad for you mentally and you actually end up spending more than if you took the consistent spending with occasional treats approach. If you can spend a week living on very little it means you can do it, now just try this on a less extreme scale but being consistent and planning your treats. This can sometimes end up with people budgeting weekly and going under their budget one week and going crazy the next week. This is actually very similar to spending all your money in the first two weeks and living on nothing. Instead of just spending the money you saved think about it, maybe save half and treat yourself with half. Don’t just fall into the trap of thinking I‘m under budget that means I have to spend the excess money. It may also be a sign that your budget is too generous and you could be cutting back more.
- Time is money. Some of you may not like this one as you may think I’m encouraging people to not be moneysaving but it is just pointing out that time is money and you could give a quick thought to this before doing something. For example, Fred is buying a new toaster. Fred knows the specific toaster he wants. Within about 15 minutes of net surfing he finds what he wants and it’s 30% cheaper than normal price. He may not have got the cheapest price for that toaster; he could stalk ebay looking for one, check shops that may not be in price comparison sites, go to the high-street and look for a ex-display item, calculate the quidco cashback for each site he’s considering to see which is the best and 4 hours have gone by and at the end of it he has saved himself another £4 which is excellent. Alternatively, if Fred had spent 15 minutes with the original plan, did two hours of overtime in work earning £20 after tax, he would have 1 3/4hr left to have fun and have £16 more. This is a very simple example, I know not everyone can pick up extra hours at work but the point is you could maybe spend the extra hours doing something else, revising your budget, listing items on ebay, working etc. While moneysaving is fantastic and I encourage us all to be part of this sometimes it can be too much if you are spending hours saving only a few pounds when you could earn than in a lot less time or use your time in a better way. Obviously if you are buying a high-value item you could save a lot more than £4 so it would be worthwhile spending longer. It’s a fine line but just think about the time vs. money thing next time. One other point is I know many people get great pleasure in saving the extra £4 and for them the 4hrs of ebay stalking doesn’t just save them money but provides them with entertainment and fun and that’s Okay, I say stick with it. I have a friend who walked 2 miles (4 there and back) to a shop because he knew he could get an item 50p cheaper than the shop at the end of the street. The time and effort spent saving that 50p was worth it for him for the sense of achievement, fun or whatever it was (this approach is not for him). The idea is to make you think about how you use your time and resources and that there may be better ways of moneysaving than the obvious.
- Getting a bargain is not always moneysaving. Many people get sucked into the false sense of achievement created by, “I could buy X and save 30% right now”. Yes, you would be saving 30% but do you really need X, would you be buying X if it wasn’t 30% off? If the answer is no to either of these it is not moneysaving it is wasting money and the worst thing is you think you are saving money. People think the best way to save money is to get a bargain; the best way is to not buy it in the first place. I feel people often forget this fact when blinded by discounts and the act of getting a bargain.
- What works for you? What works for Fred may not work for you. Take peoples’ tips, use them, ignore them or convert them into something you can use. If is doesn’t work it is not a failure; it is just not for you. It is important to minimise feeling bad about money as this is when mistakes happen.
- Mistakes happen. You gave into temptation and bought that new toaster because it was 30% off even though your old one could have made it through another year. Don’t give yourself too hard a time about it; learn from your mistake. If something like this happens, look at all the good things you’ve done, look at the big picture, make yourself feel better about your situation. If you make yourself feel bad about it you are more likely to give up which is a lot worse. Word of warning about this; avoid using the “we all make mistakes” line as an excuse to waste money. Making a silly purchase every so often is Okay but if you are doing this every week then there is a bigger problem.
- Snowballing works both ways. We’ve all seen the snowball calculator and how just throwing an extra bit of cash at debts each month can drastically reduce it. Same works the other way for getting into debt. Those trips to the coffee house each week may seem like small items individually but when then add up it can be big. This is the kind of thing you work out what it costs you a week, then monthly and then yearly and it’s the yearly big picture that normally shocks people into action.
I’m stating the obvious with the tips but knowing these things and doing them are completely different. Hopefully, pointing them out will help people jump into action.
As I said before these work for me or people I know, please don’t take offence at them if they go against how you save money or if you think they are silly.
Happy Moneysaving
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masterkay,
Thanks for writing such a great thread! Tons to think about!
One I would personally add is 'Cash is Queen' when I've done my budget, I draw out the cash I need to fulfil my targets and divide the money up into budles (one for food, one for going out etc) and spend out of each 'bundle'. Depending what I've got left at the end of the week it either gets put into the money box or I top up the bundle for the next week... for example, if I have 10.00 for food and have 2.00 left at the end of the week, I'll add 8.00 to the bundle for the next week to make it back up to 10.00.
Your bank balance goes up without trying!
I leave my cards at home a live day to day using money. It's made a huge difference as it's harder to hand over cash than the card.
If I run out... then TOUGH! ha ha!
LP
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Thanks little pickle,
Great tip. I do something similar.
Also having different accounts (I use savings accounts as my bank lets me have as many different pots/accounts as a I want) for different money for different items separate, so I know what must go out, where I'm saving money and I'm also earning interest on all cash before it comes out of accounts. When I put money in one big pot/account I lose track of it.0 -
Hi,
thanks to masterkay for that.
I agree with your time is money assessment. I do click on pigsback most days as it is easy and quick, but when I looked into doing others I decided that the time I spent doing it could be used much more lucratively doing extra work if I want extra cash!
Also i find that I lose focus on the things that I really want to achieve if I divide my time between too many activities, moneysaving or not. Other areas of life need attention to, although it is sometimes difficult to see that when we are up to our ears in debt.
Lol.:A :A :A :A
DFW Nerd No.: 789 Ligthbulb moment: 23/09/07
Challenge: No bank loans and CC gets cleared every month.
Need to think about restarting the Grocery Challenges
Sealed Pot Challenge: Put change in and give to charity when full.0 -
Wow what a long post!
I have been thinking about the situation you describe in point 4. I have been promising myself that I will sell all my extra stuff on ebay. But after careful consideration, i have realised that i don't have time for all that. If I spent my time learning, listing, packing and posting, I know my other budgets would go for a burton. I work full time and have two kids, i have a chance of promotion this year and I need to focus. it is not my time to learn ebay. I would end up panic shopping for food and buying take-aways or eating out due to stress. Does that sound silly?unsecured Debts at [strike]August 2007 £79,984[/strike] September £79,579 [STRIKE]Snowballing date July 2013[/STRIKE].
May 2009, £76,772 unsecured debts
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Same with me Masterkay... I've got a high interest savings account linked to my current account and I transfer my rent weekly to the savings account (I get paid weekly).
I get no penalty for moving the money in and out of the savings account (I checked it out before trying), so at the end of the month I simply transfer the money back to current account and withdraw to give to my landlady... AND earn high interest!!0 -
I should put a warning in long post. I just wanted to explain myself as it is easy to take things the wrong way.
I agree with your ebay assessment, for you it is not worth it, not right now. It may be in a year or so.
I personally find moneysaving fun and like the sense of achievement of being careful with my money but I keep a balance between it and my home life, work life and social life.0 -
Just thought of some more.
Ask yourself, "What Would Martin Do?" if in doubt about anything.
Buy all stuff that is not perishable and on offer in bulk. I once bought about 6 months supply of toilet roll because it was too good an offer to miss. I had to get family members to help me out as they started to limit how much I was allowed to buy. Luckily I had a big garage to store it all.
Do not have savings if you are in debt. Lots of people I know keep savings for a rainy day yet are up to their necks in debt. Generally the interest on your savings will be less than you are paying on your debt unless you are stoozing.0 -
Never use a credit card in the sales. You're actually not saving money unless you repay it very quickly - the interest gained on the debt outweighs the saving. Wait until you have cash to pay for the item.£4000 challenge
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Can I ask what spreadsheets you use for monthly and yearly budgets please?0
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Set yourself goals to keep you motivated. After becoming debt free, I decided I would like to become mortgage free as well. So I have been working toward this.
It doesn't have to be something as big as a mortgage - saving for the one thing you love is a good motivator.
I love scuba diving, so when I am tempted by something, I think to myself - oh £50 - that's one day's diving on holiday.... and talk myself out of spending!Thanks to MSE, I am mortgage free!
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