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I'm definitely with you on this one. I would always write it without the trailing "s". Words ending "s's" look wrong. I would write boss' shoes rather than boss's shoes? What if you were talking about the shoes of lots of bosses? Would you write "bosses's shoes"? Surely not.
I'm definitely with you on this one. I would always write it without the trailing "s". Words ending "s's" look wrong. I would write boss' shoes rather than boss's shoes? What if you were talking about the shoes of lots of bosses? Would you write "bosses's shoes"? Surely not.
I agree with you on the point of Martin Lewis but your example of the "bosses's" shoes doesn't hold water as the rules for applying apostrophes to singular and plural nouns are different.
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You are on thin ground according to my Oxford Style Manual and I'm amazed you're using Jesus as an example. I know the wording looks better as it is and understand that some see Martin as a god of all things money related, but that's going a little too far in my opinion!
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Looks fine to me and was what I was taught at school. Didn't know that "classical" names came into it either. Can someone explain to me why "St Thomas' Hospital" is wrong? Surely it is the hospital of St Thomas and as he was a "classical" figure....
Now just how much can we afford to stick in the mortgage....
I always write it like Lewis' or James', for example. But I know people who would write it Lewis's or James's (btw, Firefox UK English spellchecker doesn't like the former, but it does like the latter).
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I always write it like Lewis' or James', for example. But I know people who would write it Lewis's or James's (btw, Firefox UK English spellchecker doesn't like the former, but it does like the latter).
Same here.
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I can't believe anyone would be sad enough to e-mail you and complain!!
Me neither....but then again, they do...
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You'd be amazed how often...
How sad that they have nothing better to do with their time. And it's not as if people can't understand the message you're trying to put across, regardless of spelling and grammar.
PS this is the first time I've used the multi-quote. Feeling SO proud.
Perhaps those who prefer 's apostrophe s' are more inclined towards their reptilian roots (positively s-s-snake-like, and perhaps indicators of speaking with a forked tongue - MP trainees, perhaps), whereas those of us who prefer merely 's apostrophe - full stop' is possibly an indication that we are more advanced, in that we can even economise on the use of our letters - the sign of a true MSE, I think!
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The whole standard of English and grammar has well and truly gone "down the swannie".
Could this be anything to do with "texting" or the continuous government interference in the education system?
Only today, I read that the old adage "i before e except after c" is to be no longer taught.
I`m afraid that today`s pupils are not as well educated as people were in the 50/60`s.
People of that era can at least compose a letter and count without the use of a calculator.
ROFL..... some people must have such a lot of time on their hands!!!
But since you ask - okay, actually you didn't, but here is my two-pennorth anyway!
I understood that the apostrophe is used after the 's' for plurals, but before the 's' for singles (so it would be 'one door's hinges, or 'two doors' hinges).
Following that rule, where a single person's name is concerned, the rule is apostrophe then S, even if that results in James's bike, for example.
So on that basis it should be Martin Lewis's site.... BUT...
Since it is the name of the site, rather than descriptive grammar, Martin can call it what he likes. After all what about companies that substitute 'z' for 's'
(eg Greetingz Cardz).
So Martin is right - it is his site, he can call it what he likes, even if some of us think it is strictly grammatically incorrect
(ps, I have NEVER e-mailed Martin on this point..... )
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If possession is 9/10ths of the law, then this is Martin's site without further ado.
Whether Martin indicates this possession by s' and not s's, then fiddlesticks to those who don't like it.
How someone can spend energy seeking out a site, and complaining about grammar is beyond belief. I mean sending an e.mail - oh my gees. Life and get one in no particular order comes to mind. Not being morbid, but guarantees in life are death and taxes. Apostrophes and their placing really don't matter in the general scheme of things. Honestly!!!
Martin tries to do good for all us MSE's, and that's the thanks he gets. Ain't it sweet. Oh the joys.
I live in a road with 3 street signs. One says "St James's Road", one says "St James Road" and the last "St Jameses Road". The last one is ridiculous and the middle one lacking that all important apostrophe, so i go with option one.
Anyone feeling strongly about this subject should perhaps direct their emails to Portsmouth City Council instead of Martin?
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