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Question of the week: Salary Sacrifice

MSE_Martin
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Q. My employer says it's best if I contribute to my company pension via a salary sacrifice system. What does this mean and will it save me money?

Martin's Answer. Rather than contributing from your after-tax pay, contributions under salary sacrifice come from pre-tax pay, so your official wage is reduced by the amount deposited. Say you earned £30,000 a year and put £3,000 a year of it into your pension, your new official wage would be £27,000, with an additional £3,000 deposited into to your pension pot.

While that money would've been tax free anyway if you'd paid it into your pension direct, this way it's also National Insurance (NI) free as that's only deducted from your new lower wage. This means it's an average 11% saving for basic rate payers and 1% for higher rate payers on the amount deposited.

There's also a bonus for higher rate taxpayers, as normally it'd only be given the basic 20% tax relief and they'd need to claim the further tax relief, this way that's done automatically.

The downsides are, as your official wage is lower, it can harm credit applications like mortgages, and reduce entitlements to salary-related benefits such as death in service. It can also reduce your entitlement to the Second State Pension and could tie you into paying a specified amount for 12 months.

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  • jamesd
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    Salary sacrifice schemes generally have a scheme salary which is the pre-sacrifice salary that should be used on credit applications. It's not necessary to report the salary after sacrifice any more than you'd report normal salary after non-sacrifice pension payments. You can adjust the sacrifice amount, typically once a year or at major life events, like moving home (significant for mortgage applications) or death or illness. If an application allows it then it's still a good idea to mention that the pension and other items (can include insurance) are paid by salary sacrifice so the lender can ask questions if they want to. In both cases if the application provides for it you should disclose the amount of pension contribtions being made.

    The employer part of the NI bill is often, but not always, added to the payments into the pension. Sometimes only half will be added.

    Higher rate tax payers only get 1% NI saving but they get the higher rate tax relief paid into their pension each month instead of having to wait up to a year for it. That gives more time for the investments in the pension to grow. Still, a salary sacrifice scheme that doesn't add any of the employer NI saving is considerably less attractive to higher rate tax payers than basic rate. If the workplace pension offers less good investment options than the free market, or just for added flexibility, the higher rate employees might choose to ignore it and accept the 1% NI loss to get the better options, losing the employer the employer NI saving.

    The main con of a salary sacrifice scheme is that you are tied in until the dates when changes are allowed or until one of the major life events happens. A second is that some benefits can be based on the after-sacrifice income and that can sometimes be significant.

    HMRC describes the key salary sacrifice issues and the benefits that can be affected. It's important to note that you are giving up your contractual entitlement to the income as cash. You don't give up the employment contract obligation of the employer to make the contributions.

    It's almost always a good idea to jump at the opportunity to contribute by salary sacrifice and companies that don't offer such schemes are missing a method that is good for them and their employees.
  • Dick_here
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    Presumably if every employer and employee took advantage, the system would no longer allow it. For now though, fill your boots if you can :)
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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,359 Forumite
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    Salary Sacrifice has been around for over 20 years. Its not something that is likely to vanish. It also isnt something that is likely to be used that heavily as most employers don't allow it. Although there is increased potential from 2012 when paying into a members pension becomes compulsory.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • jamesd
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    !!!!!! here, yes, the recent budget limited it for those who are earning £150,000 or more and it is possible for that to be extended to others on lower incomes in the future. It's particularly likely if the LibDems are elected since they have said that they plan to eliminate higher rate tax relief and this is the obvious way to work around that.
  • Dave__7
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    Word of caution - from personal experience.....
    Check the terms of your scheme - I jumped in with both feet as a higher rate tax payer - did not read all the t&cs of my scheme.

    Was made redundant just over a year later and discovered that my sacrificed contributions were classed as employer contributions - so limitting my options to get refund etc..

    Salary Sacrifice is great - just be aware of how your money is being handled.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,359 Forumite
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    Was made redundant just over a year later and discovered that my sacrificed contributions were classed as employer contributions - so limitting my options to get refund etc..

    Salary Sacrifice is great - just be aware of how your money is being handled.

    Doesnt matter if they are classed as personal or employer. With money purchase schemes you dont get the option to get money back. The old 2 year rule applies to defined benefit schemes.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Spirit_2
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    Salary is "sacrificed" not a deduction, it is a 'reduction' so it is important to be clear on what salary (pre or post sacrifice) is used for calculating:

    Maternity pay
    Occupational Sick pay
    Redundancy.
  • Michael_Nottingham
    Michael_Nottingham Posts: 298 Forumite
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    edited 20 May 2009 at 10:22PM
    Martins comments on the email say
    "There's also a bonus for higher rate taxpayers, as normally it'd only be given the basic 20% tax relief and they'd need to claim the further tax relief, this way that's done automatically."
    Surely this isn't true for a company scheme - for a standard higher rate tax payer aren't pension contributions deducted at source (reducing taxable pay) so getting the full 40% at the time. The only time a higher rate tax payer has to claim the difference is if they pay into a personal pension where only basic rate tax is given automatically (in this case you get the refund either via your tax return or an adjustment to your coding).

    I'm not quite sure what the position of those earning in the £150k plus range is - given the recent changes and limits on tax relief for their pensions.
  • jamesd
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    Michael, check with the scheme administrators. There are lots of variations around and the only way to know is to ask.

    The typical modern money purchase scheme doesn't use salary sacrifice and it is necessary to claim the higher rate 20%. Hopefully that will change, since salary sacrifice is a good thing.

    For salary sacrifice it always is unnecessary to claim the extra 20%.
  • Michael_Nottingham
    Michael_Nottingham Posts: 298 Forumite
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    edited 20 May 2009 at 10:49PM
    Jamesd

    Good point - should have been clearer, it does depend as you say, however unlike Martin's statement, in many cases you will get full tax relief at source

    I've looked into this a bit more, according to HMRC (http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/paye/payroll/day-to-day/paying.htm#5):
    • Contributions to a registered pension scheme attract tax relief and are deducted from an employees' gross pay.
    • Contributions to an occupational pension scheme that uses the 'net pay' arrangement are deducted from employees' gross pay.
    • Contributions to a personal pension scheme must be deducted from employees' net pay after deduction of tax and NI.
    Clear as mud then - but that's normal with our tax system!

    This seems like a simple summary http://www.thetaxguide.co.uk/PensionTaxRelief.html
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