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cataract advice

Hope someone can help.

My mum is 72 and has cataracts developing, she also has osteoperosis and has been told that the bones in her back are 'crumbling', and although she is mobile and independent (walks fair distances, does not use a stick, gets on buses etc) she has a very painful back (using morphine patches!), and has been unable to sleep on her back for years.

The optician has told her that her cateracts are now bad enough to speak to her GP about surgery, however
after further questions the optician said my mum would have to sign a form stating she could lay on her back on an operating table for at least 30 minutes before surgery, so told her not to bother telling her GP as she would not be able to have the surgery anyway.

Can anyone tell me if this is true?

I would have thought that the majority of people needing cateract ops are elderly and therefore likely to have other medical problems like arthritis etc, who may have problems getting on/off examination tables, or those with breathing problems who are unable to lay completely flat on their back??

As an alternative im woundering how expensive going private would be? and if they have better equipment?

She does have a reclining chair at home, which she uses, and im sure she could tollerate a 'dentist type chair' to recline her back, (if this is something that can be used).

Any suggestions, im just so worried about her, she has had lots of medical problems in her life, and has remained fiesty and independent throughout, but im afraid that the opticians advice that she will have to live with her cateracts as she is not 'able enough' will be the last straw for her.
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  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
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    They may be able to do the procedure with your mum in some other position that's more comfortable for her. A chat with her GP about this would be best - I'm sure they wouldn't want your mum to lose her sight unnecessarily.
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • consultant31
    consultant31 Posts: 4,814 Forumite
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    Your Mum could be my Mum ;) they have very similar medical problems but mine is 80. She has severe osteoporosis with a 'crumbling spine' and had her cataracts done about 10 years ago.

    She has one which has, in fact, grown back and is due to have it done again soon. The spinal problem didn't come into it at all, so please don't worry. The pleasure Mum got from getting her eyesight back is amazing.
    I let my mind wander and it never came back!
  • margaretclare
    margaretclare Posts: 10,789 Forumite
    Your Mum should find out a bit more, or her optician should be a bit more positive and less off-putting.

    Both DH and I had cataracts done last year and it was one of the best things we've ever had done. I was referred from the optician's and I was given options under the 'Choose and Book' scheme, one of which was the opthalmology unit at the local hospital and the other 2 were in private hospitals, for which the NHS would pay. I opted for the first, because it has such a good reputation and is really state-of-the-art, I can't see how paying for it would get you any better.

    Surgery takes no more than 15 minutes tops, you come out of there and, for the first time in years, you can see!!! DH and I have both worn specs since we were 11 or 12, a matter of some 60 years. Now we don't need them.

    Can't understand what the optician means about 'now bad enough to speak to the GP about surgery'....all I can think is, not a very modern and up-to-date optician! The criterion is, does it affect her life. Does she have difficulty seeing normally i.e. with a cataract, it's like looking through a fog or through a curtain. If it affects your life then it's time to have it done, and the optician could refer her! Otherwise, speak to GP asap.

    As you rightly say, there are so many other bits and pieces that attack us in later life - as DH says, it either malfunctions or it falls off - that being able to see is one of the greatest blessings, and modern treatment is now top-notch. Our local unit does anything between 10 and 20 cataracts a day, 5 days a week.

    HTH
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  • Can't understand what the optician means about 'now bad enough to speak to the GP about surgery'.....

    HTH

    In the past, eye specialists often waited until the cataract became “ripe” and your vision was very poor before suggesting you had the cataract removed.
    Nowadays, with modern surgery the operation is usually done as soon as your eyesight interferes with your daily life.
    But as most of the Optoms are old school they still sing off the old song sheet. My aunt had one of her eyes done last year but was told the other wasnt ripe. :confused: Hope this helps
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,574 Forumite
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    When my Dad had his done, he was in a chair similar to a dentist's. It was tipped back during the operation but he was not flat out. Have a word with the hospital about the way they do it.
  • Peartree
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    From what I know about my the situation of my parents and their friends it sounds like you are getting really duff advice. I'd talk to her GP asap. Her cataracts would be dealt with by the local PCT which her GP is part of and her optician is not. Her optician may be years out of date on the latest care and frankly, what he/she is saying sounds like complete nonsense! Surely all health services cater to people with with restricted mobility or they would be in contravention of the disability discrimination act, never mind human rights, et al. Your mum's age should be immaterial.

    In my parents' area there is such a big drive to deal with cataracts that they are done in a mobile unit, dentist chair style, in and out, and the waiting list is practically nil. If your mum has mobility problems then I imagine an improvement in reading or viewing will really improve her enjoyment of life so I'd say talk to her GP without any delay.

    On one level I'd just say change her optician for one who knows about twenty first century options. However, I'm more annoyed than that - I think that, after seeing your mum's GP, you should think about putting in a complaint against the optician. The inferior healthcare that our seniors are subject to appalls me. If this 'professional' person gave incorrect advice to your mum they will be giving it to others who don't have children who will look at alternatives on their behalf. If this optician's advice causes just one, slightly immobile, senior to think they cannot have surgery that would improve their enjoyment of life it is absolutely sinful and, frankly, they want shaming.
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    Your Mum could be my Mum ;) they have very similar medical problems but mine is 80. She has severe osteoporosis with a 'crumbling spine' and had her cataracts done about 10 years ago.

    She has one which has, in fact, grown back and is due to have it done again soon. The spinal problem didn't come into it at all, so please don't worry. The pleasure Mum got from getting her eyesight back is amazing.

    who ever told you that the cataract has grown back is talking the biggest load of tripe ever.
    Cataracts can never grow back. Cataracts grow throughtout the lens
    of the eye making sight cloudy, a cataract is not removed, the whole lens bearing the cataract is removed therefore a cataract cannot grow back on a lens that is not there. May years ago the lenses were removed and sight was just adjusted by thick glasses, nowadays the lens is removed and a
    new plastic lens is put in. Believe me, my whole family have suffered from Cataracts from birth so i know from my own research and their operations what it involves. Your mum will get a new lease of life, it makes that much difference, literally being able to see clearly again after years of muffled sight.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,911 Forumite
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    Your mum should definitely talk to her GP. Also note that not everyone comes out of their cataract op instantly able to see better, and for some people it can take a considerable period for things to improve. Especially if they're prescribed drops which they're allergic to ...

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  • suki1964
    suki1964 Posts: 14,313 Forumite
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    My dad has had both eyes done this year - and he too cant lie flat too long without pain. One eye was done lying down and was quick the other was sitting up, took longer but the healing was a lot quicker. I think the second op was the new improved way of doing thing - just a new way out this year. Im sorry Im not more specific but do go talk to your GP
  • nuttywoman
    nuttywoman Posts: 2,203 Forumite
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    My hubby had both eyes done a couple of years ago at one of those units that travel up and down the country in portacabins.He was sat in a chair as well and has`nt had any problems.
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