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FSA Retail Distribution Review - What does it mean for consumers
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dunstonh
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The FSA "RDR" has come up a few times and rather than go off topic on those threads, I have created this one so those interested can post comment.
At the moment you have tied agents, multi-tied agents, whole of market advisers and IFAs. The FSA want to change this and also improve standards. Here are the current proposed adviser levels:
Full Financial Advice
The FSA propose to split the provision of full financial advice into two clear intermediary classes:
1. Professional Financial Planner – firms with chartered status or similar charging by fee (or customer-agreed remuneration, which the FSA regards as a variant of fee) only.
2. General Financial Adviser – as now firms providing financial advice with a range of qualifications and accepting payment by methods including commission.
Primary Advice
Basic advice will be replaced by a new primary advice service:
3. Primary Advisers – a new advice category offering a limited service, the FSA will be looking for significant feedback on the Discussion Paper in this area.
Unregulated Advice
Subject to the outcomes emerging from the Thoresen Review of Generic Advice (currently being undertaken for the Government and due to report by the end of 2007), a fourth unregulated category of advice could be created:
4. Generic or Holistic Advice – offering advice on a variety of financial issues, from debt management to saving. Potentially an output from generic advice could be a portable fact find which could be used as an entry into regulated advice.
They are listed in order of the best. However, it should be noted that only around 1000 advisers currently would meet the top standard based on early proposals. It requires qualifications which are at degree level. The general adviser level requires what used to be known as the advanced FPC but is now called diploma. The primary adviser will be at current level. However, there is less consumer protection from primary advisers as it will be more of a flow chart style advice process offering a limited range of products (likely to replace stakeholder advice process). There will be limited FOS protection at this level as you will sign to say you agree with the advice.
To use the term IFA, you will have to be at the top level. So, most are likely to either go general financial planner (which is higher than the current standard) or become mortgage advisers (it is estimated that nearly 2/3rds of IFAs are mostly mortgage advisers anyway and mortgage regulation is lower and far cheaper for the individual) or call it a day because they dont want to sit 5 more exams when they are going to retire shortly afterwards anyway. There has already been an increase of firms selling up.
It is early days in the consultation process and it wont be until 2009 at the earliest before the changes come into play. Even then there will have to be a transitional period as it is estimated that it would take 5 years to get from diploma level to chartered level qualifications let alone from current certificate level (add another 2-3 years for that).
Many firms have acted. This typically tend to be your NMA IFAs as they already work on customer agreed remuneration and work with investment strategies and ongoing servicing. Indeed, the top level adviser is very much a match for NMAs.
Salesforces are almost certainly going to go with the primary advice level as they can mass employ individuals, not pay them as much as they are lower qualified than proper advisers, have more expensive products as there will be no charge cap and have little come back with complaints as there will be virtually no FOS protection for bad advice. Its almost like a return to the old insurance agent to service the mass market.
The FSA has said that it expects the number of IFAs to drop dramatically and it has admitted that the middle market consumer is likely to be worse off from its proposals.
At the moment you have tied agents, multi-tied agents, whole of market advisers and IFAs. The FSA want to change this and also improve standards. Here are the current proposed adviser levels:
Full Financial Advice
The FSA propose to split the provision of full financial advice into two clear intermediary classes:
1. Professional Financial Planner – firms with chartered status or similar charging by fee (or customer-agreed remuneration, which the FSA regards as a variant of fee) only.
2. General Financial Adviser – as now firms providing financial advice with a range of qualifications and accepting payment by methods including commission.
Primary Advice
Basic advice will be replaced by a new primary advice service:
3. Primary Advisers – a new advice category offering a limited service, the FSA will be looking for significant feedback on the Discussion Paper in this area.
Unregulated Advice
Subject to the outcomes emerging from the Thoresen Review of Generic Advice (currently being undertaken for the Government and due to report by the end of 2007), a fourth unregulated category of advice could be created:
4. Generic or Holistic Advice – offering advice on a variety of financial issues, from debt management to saving. Potentially an output from generic advice could be a portable fact find which could be used as an entry into regulated advice.
They are listed in order of the best. However, it should be noted that only around 1000 advisers currently would meet the top standard based on early proposals. It requires qualifications which are at degree level. The general adviser level requires what used to be known as the advanced FPC but is now called diploma. The primary adviser will be at current level. However, there is less consumer protection from primary advisers as it will be more of a flow chart style advice process offering a limited range of products (likely to replace stakeholder advice process). There will be limited FOS protection at this level as you will sign to say you agree with the advice.
To use the term IFA, you will have to be at the top level. So, most are likely to either go general financial planner (which is higher than the current standard) or become mortgage advisers (it is estimated that nearly 2/3rds of IFAs are mostly mortgage advisers anyway and mortgage regulation is lower and far cheaper for the individual) or call it a day because they dont want to sit 5 more exams when they are going to retire shortly afterwards anyway. There has already been an increase of firms selling up.
It is early days in the consultation process and it wont be until 2009 at the earliest before the changes come into play. Even then there will have to be a transitional period as it is estimated that it would take 5 years to get from diploma level to chartered level qualifications let alone from current certificate level (add another 2-3 years for that).
Many firms have acted. This typically tend to be your NMA IFAs as they already work on customer agreed remuneration and work with investment strategies and ongoing servicing. Indeed, the top level adviser is very much a match for NMAs.
Salesforces are almost certainly going to go with the primary advice level as they can mass employ individuals, not pay them as much as they are lower qualified than proper advisers, have more expensive products as there will be no charge cap and have little come back with complaints as there will be virtually no FOS protection for bad advice. Its almost like a return to the old insurance agent to service the mass market.
The FSA has said that it expects the number of IFAs to drop dramatically and it has admitted that the middle market consumer is likely to be worse off from its proposals.
I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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An update to this (for those that are interested in seeing how things are done or going to be done)...
The FSA is not going with a three tiered system any more. It has decided that it would be too confusing and instead is going with a two tiered system with a clear definition between sales and advice.
Although the details are not yet published it has been strongly hinted by them that independents will mean whole of market, will have to offer a fee option as now but will have higher minimum qualifications than currently the case.
Those working for salesforces (bank for example) will have a lower qualification standard (the same as it is now) but will not be able to use the term adviser or present their options as financial advice. It is not known if the FSA will remove FOS protection from the salesforces at this time.
Frequent readers of this site, and this or the investments forum in particular, will no doubt look at the proposals and think that that is basically the current position with a bit more disclosure on the type of person you are seeing and forcing IFAs to be slightly higher qualified.I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.0 -
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VERY welcome.I am an Independent Financial Adviser
Anything posted on this forum is for discussion purposes only. It should not be considered financial advice.0
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