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The Three Purse system - Help please?

moggins
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How exactly do I run this? I need some serious help today as things are not going well and I am getting stressed by trying to run a budget.
I know deep down that I am not doing badly as we still have £275 left in the account to last us till 30th March which is far better than usual and I've opened a savings account which now has £50 in it too.
The trouble is the other half, I set him a budget of £100 for anything he needed to buy over the month and £60 for petrol, he's also got an extra £30 for ensuring the minimum payment is met on his credit card too. The trouble is he paid the whole £190 off his credit card at the beginning of the month leaving him with no available cash. So everytime he needs money for parking etc. he's coming to me and it's coming out of my grocery money.
I know I need to start the three purse system, I just don't know exactly what I am supposed to separate them into.
Can anyone help, I'm getting so stressed out I seem to have a permanent headache these days.
It doesn't help that he's owed £120 for a job he did and my child maintenance hasn't appeared in the bank today either
I know deep down that I am not doing badly as we still have £275 left in the account to last us till 30th March which is far better than usual and I've opened a savings account which now has £50 in it too.
The trouble is the other half, I set him a budget of £100 for anything he needed to buy over the month and £60 for petrol, he's also got an extra £30 for ensuring the minimum payment is met on his credit card too. The trouble is he paid the whole £190 off his credit card at the beginning of the month leaving him with no available cash. So everytime he needs money for parking etc. he's coming to me and it's coming out of my grocery money.
I know I need to start the three purse system, I just don't know exactly what I am supposed to separate them into.
Can anyone help, I'm getting so stressed out I seem to have a permanent headache these days.
It doesn't help that he's owed £120 for a job he did and my child maintenance hasn't appeared in the bank today either

Organised people are just too lazy to look for things
F U Fund currently at £250
F U Fund currently at £250
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Hi Moggins
Take a deep breath.........there. It doesn't sound too bad, paying off the credit card is a good thing & it doesn't sound as if he is putting anything more onto it if he is comming to you for pocket change, hopefully you'll be £30 better off next month as you won't have that minimum re-payment to make. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is occasionally a good thing if it saves you interest charges. Think of it like this : what would you rather have next month : £30 in the bank or £5 in interest charges & £130 of debt?
For now can you divide up whatever the remaining available cash between your 3 purses proportionally (do you need to provide more petrol money? If so take this into account & divide up the money 4 ways) & eek it out until the end of the month? Then next month start afresh. If you don't think the remaining money will be enough for the next 10 days can your husband park further away & walk to save car park charges? Can you do without a daily paper for a week? Small things like this can make a big difference at the end of the month. If worst comes to worst could you use a bit of the saved money? I know this seems like a step backwards but it's only for 10 days so you shouldn't need all of it, be strict & you can start again next month (there's always loads of this in budgeting!) & personally I'd rather have no money in the bank & no debt, than spare cash & owe moeny to others & have to pay interest on it.
Good luck & let us know how you get on.
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Perhaps this month was not a good month to start? They've dropped loads of things on him that he doesn't usually have to deal with, he's had to make 3 trips to London (by car) and this morning when he should be on holiday he's had to go back into work for a union meeting. This has meant that we've had to buy two new tyres as he had a slow puncture in one and no spare! extra petrol which won't be paid back to us until he gets his expenses at the end of the month. He did try to save some money by parking in a car park in Zone 6 and getting a travel card for London but instead of just putting his card in the machine he took a tenner out of the bank instead!!
I think he's maxed out his credit card again as he says he hasn't got anything left on it. I had to set him the budget as he works in town and was taking money out of the bank almost every day, he kept saying it's only a ten or twenty pounds but when you do that about 20 odd times it soon mounts up.
I obviously need to keep some emergency cash hanging around, perhaps I need a fourth purse?Organised people are just too lazy to look for things
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Maybe you need a slush fund for expenses which will be refunded? I know from experience that this takes time & patience to build up, any expenses refunded over the odds of the purchase price (like mileage or daily living allowance), leftover grocery budget at month end etc can all be transfered to this slush fund until you have built up a suitable cushion. Of course, when expenses are refunded they should be paid back into the fund to keep it topped up, again less any "profit" of allowances etc which can be put into a car repairs fund or savings as you see fit.
Would your Hubby be prepared to go to a cash only basis next month? If he has run up the credit card again you need to resolve this first & foremost. Is it essential stuff, expenses or just day to day incidentlas he is putting on it? If it is just personal stuff then I think his personal spending money (£60 per month was it?) should be reduced to pay it off. If it is expenses than will he be repaid in time to clear the debt before interst kicks in? If so this isn't too bad, lots of people use their credit cards for work expenses & pay them off in full but you need to be quite disciplined to successfully do this. It is even better if you switch to a reward based credit card & get a bonus for spending someone elses money!
If you don't already have an emergency fund & funds for bills, car repairs etc underway I would recommend setting them up ASAP. They take a long toime to reach optimum levels, about a year in my case & and there was a lot of borriwing from different funds to ensure all payments were met but it worked. Our one golden rule was that we never borrowed against next months income (i.e used the credit card or overdraft if we hadn't got the money availble somewhere to pay it off straight away) You heve already taken the first step by setting up a grocery budget, you just need to extend this to other areas.
The bottom line is as long as your monthly outgoings don't exceed your monthly income you are doing OK. It's just a bit of a juggling act.Post Natal Depression is the worst part of giving birth:p
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DH was always the one who scuppered my budget too: here's what we did
Dole out the cash on a weekly basis rather than a monthly basis. Although you might still end up dishing out the money to cover a shortfall it should be for a shorter period rather than nearly two weeks... Nothing like a prolonged time depriving yourself to make you feel even more miserable.
Set up a DD for the minimum CC payment, pay off any extra when and only when you get to the end of the month and you have covered all other expenses. We have a months salary as our emergency fund to cover all expenses (we hope!) this is usually enough to cover us when work is late refunding expenses for working away etc. and if it is raided it is paid back the second the expenses cheque from work clears.
Transfer any CC debt to a CC with the lowest interest you can get. Lots of articles on this one on MSE (lol)! If it is a large amount think about a 0% life of balance one instead of a 0% for six months one.
Don't let DH take the cards with him. Either debit card or credit card. Harsh but when my hubby had to come to me to get the cards before he could spend it it stopped most of the incidental stuff in its tracks. It is no good having a card for emergencies if it is just too tempting. DH had AA breakdown cover for the car if he got stranded, an emergency tenner (oh the generousity lol!) which he had to account for each week, and a mobile phone with credit on it and this covered everything we had to deal with at the time.
Have separate current accounts - this means that you can see exactly what he is doing with his money separate from yours. (DH pays the housekeeping into mine by DD at the beginning of the month along with all the other bills (utilitites, car insurance etc etc etc) What is left is his to do with as he will) This meant that even if he did get himself into a right state and max out his account I still had access to money through mine rather than be tarred with the same brush.
Yes it was a hard slog to begin with - initially we just seemed to be saving pennies adn this was all going into building up the emergency fund, but keep your chin up. Set small goals and give yourself a small treat when you achieve them (e.g. rent a film/ get a takeaway or something else you have deprived yourself of) this could be something as simple as only went to the cash machine once this week to start with, or didn't use the CC at all this month, only you know your spending habits (and it is a habit and can be broken if you work at it together)
Make what you are doing visible, for my DH this meant doing a graph in Excel to show the balance of our debt and how the interest payments where going down steadily, he said he could actually see the point then, when it was just numbers on a bill it just went in a drawer...
Hope this helps, it may not feel like it but you have taken to first steps and there is light at the end of the tunnel.0 -
I guess being single again does have it's advantages in that I have full control over the finances again :rolleyes:
I'd always been brought up to save up for anything you wanted and never to borrow money, so I learned how to budget from a very early age (leaving home at 16 helped too as I had no one to fall back on if I'd spent all my wages LOL!)
My ex was the complete opposite though and it wasn't long before we had a string of credit cards and loans etc, which was all well and good while we could afford it, but when business dried up the !!!!!! hit the fan so to speak. I then had to do as many others here have done and take over the purse strings to get us out of debt. It was a long hard struggle and didn't make me feel very good about myself handing DH a tenner a week "pocket money" when he was working all the hours gods send to bring in a wage
These things have to be done though and I'm now in the fortunate position I don't have any debt (nor a DH either but that's a different story and not financially connected!) and my only bit of plastic is a debit card
I'm also trying to teach my son the benefits of budgeting (he gets a generous weekly allowance from his father) as I don't want him to have the same throw away attitude to money. It seems to be working and he's now opened his own savings account and puts something in it every week"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
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Thanks for all the advice, I'm definitely going to take it on board. I just didn't want to treat him like a child, I've told him that we're going to start the three purse system and that we will have a small fund at home in cash for things that crop up, I won't tell him where it is though
We're not really in any serious debt, we took out a small loan for a second hand car last year as he had to have one for his work and a small student loan which he has just had to start paying off, everything that my ex left me with is now paid off. I just want to start having some savings as I'm tired of having to worry where the money is coming from when something unexpected crops up (which is why I'm almost living in this particular forum).
I had a talk with him and as he can see how much I've already saved this month he is definitely taking it seriously.Organised people are just too lazy to look for things
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I'm probably going to sound like a complete dumbass now, but what is the 3 purse system.0
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Three purse system is just keeping your budgeted money separate more scary than it sounds
for example you could have 1)groceries 2)toiletries/household stuff and 3) petrol
course you could have any number of 'purses' but these are the ones I use as they are the daily stuff
by taking the money in cash you are less likely to overspend.0 -
I have a '1 purse, 2 bank account, 2 pot' system
Current account for DDs, savings account (£50 per month, DD from current account), pot for groceries, pot for other stuff (just used some of this for my new path) and a purse for my pocket money
Hubby gets pocket money too, I got fed up with hearing "I took £20 out of the bank today". He's got used to it now though, the other day he rang from work to ask permission to go to the bank cos he'd left his money at home LOL.
It's a bit easier for us to do this than it is for some people because I get paid cash (not cash-in-hand, it all goes through the books) so I don't need to go to the bank to sort out the budget, I get the money and it goes straight into the pots.Bulletproof0 -
I have 9 pots within my "general" bank account for longer term expenditure which doesn't occour every month, labelled difefrent things (Holiday/Car repairs/TV license/Phone bills/House Insurance etc) which I save a set amount each month to so that the annual cost is always covered. My current account, for expenses which occour every month, is further divided into Groceries/Personal spending & from next moth also Incidental Household expense which used to come out of grocery money! Fortuantely I only have one purse as I put everything through my credit card (and pay off in full of course, much easer than carrying umpteen purses of cash plus I get Nectar points) & all my transfers are done online. I'd be lost without Barclays online banking!Post Natal Depression is the worst part of giving birth:p
In England we have Mothering Sunday & Father Christmas, Mothers day & Santa Clause are American merchandising tricks:mad: Demonstrate pride in your heirtage by getting it right please people!0
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