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The Truth About The State Pension
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The last defence of the loser: try to ridicule your opponent when you have no answers. And what is about 'victories' scored against me? You couldn't score a victory in a game of naughts and crosses against someone who had just consumed a bottle of whisky and taken LSD.
Point proven. If the above does not convince everyone to follow my advice regarding this poster then I don't know what will.
Please don't feed the troll..."I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.0 -
Pot/Kettle.marklv wrote:The last defence of the loser: try to ridicule your opponent when you have no answers.
A problem I've noticed, is that when you are given answers (you don't like,) instead of addressing them, you
1) respond with abuse, then
2) change the questions (while trying to make it look like the question you originally asked,)
both of which make responding to you essentially pointless, which is what Harry was trying to get across.
For an example of this, I refer readers to your reply to my last post, where you called me stupid, then changed what you asked to something completely different:
You ask for an example of professions that exist in both the public and private sectors.
You are being stupid now - only a minority of these professions are in the private sector. And when they do work in the private sector they certainly earn more than in the public one. Just look at Harley Street as an example.Paul_Herring wrote: »
(Emphasis mine) You mean professions like Doctors and Teachers? I see only apples, and very few oranges.The reason average wages aren higher in the public sector is because of the high number of professionals (doctors, teachers, etc) who work in that sector and in most cases only in that sector. So you are comparing apples with oranges. A better comparison would be between people doing jobs that apply to both the private and public sectors.
I give some (which happen to be ones you think don't exist for whatever reason) and you reply by calling me stupid, and discount the reply because "they're only a minority" (which (a) you didn't mention in your original question and (b) is irrelevant anyway.)
You then top it off by resorting to hyperbole by mentioning Harley Street, which - to apply your own argument - is only a minority of Doctors (either as a profession as a whole, or even as a proportion of private practices,) so they don't count, and by extension, neither does your argument.
I await your reply calling me a moron.
I thank you. :bows:Conjugating the verb 'to be":
-o I am humble -o You are attention seeking -o She is Nadine Dorries0 -
Dear oh dear marklv. Between this thread and your asinine comments about annuities in another thread, you're not really showing yourself in a great light here, are you?0
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Dear oh dear marklv. Between this thread and your asinine comments about annuities in another thread, you're not really showing yourself in a great light here, are you?
No, I am in a wonderful light: it's the light of truth. Unfortunately the likes of you and the other troll posters seem to take anything from 'The Times' as bible truth. Very naive. Journalists are paid to sow discord and cause trouble where there was none to start with; the problem is that you can't see that. Rather than eliminating public sector pensions, which would be hugely antagonistic and provocative, I would cut the Trident replacement and eliminate overtime payments in the Police and other public services. These payments would be replaced by time off in lieu. Trust me, the public purse would save billions with these measures.0 -
No, I am in a wonderful light: it's the light of truth. Unfortunately the likes of you and the other troll posters seem to take anything from 'The Times' as bible truth. Very naive. Journalists are paid to sow discord and cause trouble where there was none to start with; the problem is that you can't see that. Rather than eliminating public sector pensions, which would be hugely antagonistic and provocative, I would cut the Trident replacement and eliminate overtime payments in the Police and other public services. These payments would be replaced by time off in lieu. Trust me, the public purse would save billions with these measures.
So where do you get all your information from?
Trident would save about £2bn pa. Only another £80bn to save this year then to reach Gov'ts stated intention of halving of public sector spending shortfall.
Many police already get time off in lieu of overtime payts - that's why they're retiring a year or 2 early - because of accumulated hols.
How about cutting teachers, nurses, doctors, police, MPs and civil servants pay by 5% - that should save quite a bit
Sorry Haz - couldn't resist.0 -
No, I am in a wonderful light: it's the light of truth. Unfortunately the likes of you and the other troll posters seem to take anything from 'The Times' as bible truth. Very naive. Journalists are paid to sow discord and cause trouble where there was none to start with; the problem is that you can't see that. Rather than eliminating public sector pensions, which would be hugely antagonistic and provocative, I would cut the Trident replacement and eliminate overtime payments in the Police and other public services. These payments would be replaced by time off in lieu. Trust me, the public purse would save billions with these measures.
I love your posts mark, I genuinely do. With you one can always rely on a 100% NIMBY reply - we can do anything, so long as it doesnt directly affect me.
If only you had the integrity to put it thus, I would admire you so much more. Sadly, you don't have the moral fortitude to do that; and your entire posting history is a series of 'they can't do it because it's not fair [to me]' refrains.0 -
Cutting pay just angers people - and that results in strikes, which end up costing the taxpayer, so the purpose of the exercise is defeated. You are better off pensioning off all teachers over 55 - that saves money without causing the trouble you would have with what you propose. I do agree with cutting doctors' pay, as they have been treated with kid gloves by Blair.
By the way, you are mistaken by police overtime - at least in the Met Police. The Evening Standard has been highlighting overtime abuses in the Met Police, including some PCs earning £100k a year, mostly from overtime.0 -
I love your posts mark, I genuinely do. With you one can always rely on a 100% NIMBY reply - we can do anything, so long as it doesnt directly affect me.
If only you had the integrity to put it thus, I would admire you so much more. Sadly, you don't have the moral fortitude to do that; and your entire posting history is a series of 'they can't do it because it's not fair [to me]' refrains.
People like me offer good value to the taxpayer. On the other hand my employer uses many external consultants from the private sector at rates of up to £2,000 a day - not such good value for money. You need to look at the big picture and stop scapegoating just about anyone who works in the public sector.0 -
People like me offer good value to the taxpayer. On the other hand my employer uses many external consultants from the private sector at rates of up to £2,000 a day - not such good value for money. .
Isn't that slightly contradictory?
If those who work in the public sector represent such good value (as you so self-effacingly put it), why would your bosses need to hire private sector consultants? Arent you guys up to the tasks yourself? Don't your bosses rate you?
Why, then, should we?0 -
Such good value that he spends all his time on here moaning about how hard done to he is and arguing with everyone. I feel that that's my tax money well spent. No wonder they need external resources, nothing would get done otherwise. :rolleyes:"I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.0
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