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Is my agreement enforceable? SAINSBURYS credit card?
GGM_2
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Hi I would be really grateful for any advice on the following CCA I got from Sainsburys.
Big thank in advance for looking and helping me.
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Big thank in advance for looking and helping me.
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This looks like an application form to me.
They need to meet these rules
IS MY AGREEMENT ENFORCEABLE (Via section 127(3) CCA1974).
PRESCRIBED TERMS FOR THE PURPOSES OF SECTIONS 61(1)(0) AND 127(3) OF THE CONSUMER CREDIT ACT 1974 Taken from schedule.6 (1983/1553) regulations
(If you just want to find out, skip the bits in between the stars it’s just some extra information)
**What do we mean by unenforceable?
In the Consumer Credit Act section 127 there is a provision for making an agreement unenforceable if it does not contain certain pieces of information.
Subsections 1,2,3,4 state which pieces of information these are, and everything mentioned there must be included within the body of the agreement, if one is missing the agreement is unenforceable.
How does unenforceable differ from enforceable with a court order only?
When an agreement is unenforceable it means that the court or the judge cannot make a ruling on it. The court cannot make it enforceable.
When an agreement is enforceable only by ruling of the court it means that the agreement can be stopped by the debtor but the court has the power to re-instate it and allow the credit to continue to enforce.**
The Prescribed Terms are these:
A Amount of credit
A term stating the amount of credit
B Repayments
A term stating how the debtor is to discharge his obligations under the agreement to make the repayments, which may be expressed by reference to a combination of any of the following:-
(a) Number of repayments;
(b) Amount of repayments;
(c) Frequency and timing of repayments;
(d) Dates of repayments;
(e) The manner in which any of the above may be determined; or in any other way, and any power of the creditor to vary what is payable.
C Rate of interest
A term stating the rate of interest to be applied to the credit issued under the agreement
D Credit limit
This may be a term or the manner in which it will be determined or that there is no credit limit.
Which of these applies to you depends on the type of agreement you have?
For a Running Account (credit card) agreement
BC and D Apply
For a Restricted Use Debtor Creditor Supplier- Where the dealer is the supplier and the creditor is the one providing the finance.
- The money can only be used for the purpose it is given.
- There is no interest on the purchase (the cash price is the same as the total price)
- And there is no advance payment
For a fixed Sum Credit Agreement
A conventional credit agreement with none of the above restrictions
A and B apply
For a Hire Agreement
B is Applicable
This paper only covers section 127(3) of the Act agreements can also be unenforceable by contravention of sections 1 and 4 this will be the subject of the next paper.
Please note that these Prescribed terms where not changed in any way by the 2004/1482 Amendments although the form in which they appear on the agreement was. Subsection127(3) was repealed on the 6th of April 2007 so that unenforceability due to 127(3) will only apply to agreements executed before that date.If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
It has no prescribed terms on it.
OP you need to amend the image, there's info on there that coould identify you, i.e the barcode.Click here for Martins (MSE) advice on who to contact with Debt Issues - YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE A FEE PAYING DEBT MANAGEMENT COMPANY- THEY CANNOT DO ANYMORE FOR YOU THAN THOSE LISTED IN MY LINK ABOVE.
All information given by myself is offered informally and without prejudice - if in doubt seek help from a qualified and insured professional0 -
Good example of a duff CCA?If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0
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RAS, the first thing that caught my eye was the stamped date "2003" far to early to have any prescribed terms for most creditors.Good example of a duff CCA?Click here for Martins (MSE) advice on who to contact with Debt Issues - YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE A FEE PAYING DEBT MANAGEMENT COMPANY- THEY CANNOT DO ANYMORE FOR YOU THAN THOSE LISTED IN MY LINK ABOVE.
All information given by myself is offered informally and without prejudice - if in doubt seek help from a qualified and insured professional0 -
See the others I am dredging up?If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0
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Looks like exactly the same thing they sent me! My case is now with the FOS on PPI mis-selling and the efforts of Sainsburys to continue to try and enforce this agreement even though the agreement does not contain the prescribed terms. I full expect the FOS to do what they always do in these cases and say, "We won't get involved in the legality of documents...........that is up to the courts to decide............." which they initially did with me until the OFT sent me a letter confirming that CCA isses were for the FOS to consider!Almost debt-free, but certainly even with the Banks!0
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Click here for Martins (MSE) advice on who to contact with Debt Issues - YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE A FEE PAYING DEBT MANAGEMENT COMPANY- THEY CANNOT DO ANYMORE FOR YOU THAN THOSE LISTED IN MY LINK ABOVE.
All information given by myself is offered informally and without prejudice - if in doubt seek help from a qualified and insured professional0 -
Not exactly. Promised to find a few examples for an OP and came up with some old posts.
Thought it was you who was on form by the way. Charging orders soming out of us ears at the mo.If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0
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