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Shop Price 'Inflation' RISES

So much for the 'death spiral of falling prices' that the media have been hawking to justify interest rate cuts:

http://www.retail-week.com/News/2009/02/shop_price_inflation_rises_in_january.html
UK shop price inflation rose 1.1 per cent in January according to the BRC Nielsen Shop Price Index.

This was up from 0.5 per cent in December.

Food inflation also up in January, rising to 7.5 per cent compared to 6.2 per cent in December.

Since summer the report has shown a trend for decelerating inflation however unprecedented promotional activity by retailers in December has temporarily reversed this trend.

Non-food prices showed deflation in January, down 2.1 per cent compared with the same time last year.

BRC director general Stephen Robertson said: "Retailers' margins are taking a hammering as they hold down prices to encourage hard-up customers. Most non-food goods continue to be significantly cheaper than a year ago. And prices in sectors including clothing and furniture are actually falling more quickly."

He added: "But the effects of the weak pound are starting to filter through to the costs of imports, slowing the rate of price falls for some non-food goods and contributing to pushing up the prices of some food products. In particular the fall in sterling has increased overseas demand for UK beef and pushed up the price of some imported commodities."

So, the period of price falls may well be over as the collapsed pound causes imports to be more expensive - and those increased costs will be feeding through to the consumer in the coming months.

Stagflation here we come.
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Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
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  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I agree the prices have increased due to exchange rates.
    But I think you will see in the next 6 months.

    £= $1.5-£1.6
    £= 1.2-1.3 Euros

    Prices will fall again it is just that there had been a mass £ sell off which looks to be recovering in the last two weeks or so.

    I expect prices to start to fall again in the next month or two (and we import all our goods)
  • ad44downey
    ad44downey Posts: 2,246 Forumite
    I agree. This deflation nonsense is a myth. I see train fares went up over 6% just last month. They're very selective in what they choose to measure inflation. They're kidding no-one.
    Krusty & Phil Madoff, 1990 - 2007:
    "Buy now because house prices only ever go UP, UP, UP."
  • amcluesent
    amcluesent Posts: 9,425 Forumite
    The Bank is printing money too. ££ Billions!

    Massive inflation coming Q4 2009, esp. as other economies come out of recession before us and oil/gas prices go back up.
  • WTF?_2
    WTF?_2 Posts: 4,592 Forumite
    Really2 wrote: »
    I agree the prices have increased due to exchange rates.
    But I think you will see in the next 6 months.

    £= $1.5-£1.6
    £= 1.2-1.3 Euros

    Prices will fall again it is just that there had been a mass £ sell off which looks to be recovering in the last two weeks or so.

    I expect prices to start to fall again in the next month or two (and we import all our goods)

    I would certainly expect a recovery against the Euro, or rather a Euro collapse, at some stage. The Dollar should fall too but market psychology and unique conditions (global reserve, petro currency) gives it a massive advantage vs any other currency.

    However, I don't expect the benefits of any relative strengthening of Sterling to filter through for quite a few months after it happens. We are already just beginning to see the effects of the recent collapse of Sterling manifest themselves.
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    Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    I agree its very odd how the government keeps announcing policies to achieve one thing, and then the exact opposite happens.

    If I didnt know better I would say its almost like they didnt know what they were doing.
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Stagflation here we come.

    Can't wait :T

    The Bank is printing money too. ££ Billions!

    Massive inflation coming Q4 2009,

    Do you think that if you keep repeating it, it might actually come true ??

    Or are you just trying to convince yourself ?????
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    !!!!!!? wrote: »
    I would certainly expect a recovery against the Euro, or rather a Euro collapse, at some stage. The Dollar should fall too but market psychology and unique conditions (global reserve, petro currency) gives it a massive advantage vs any other currency.

    However, I don't expect the benefits of any relative strengthening of Sterling to filter through for quite a few months after it happens. We are already just beginning to see the effects of the recent collapse of Sterling manifest themselves.

    when it does happen and prices do drop again due to the exchange rates going the other way - can you post a link letting us know?

    also, would you know which economy do you think is perfect and doesn't have any issues?
  • Well, actually, it is factual - they ARE printing and issuing money in Billions...

    Issue of Bank of England banknotes by value
    (£ Millions)

    £5 £10 £20 £50 Total
    2003/04 1,545 3,367 4,589 525 10,027
    2004/05 534 2,978 6,363 608 10,482
    2005/06 314 2,287 6,825 331 9,757
    2006/07 532 3,233 6,551 658 10,973
    2007/08 812 3,298 14,416 921 19,447


    Might not qualify as QE, but something has happened this year - nearly double the issue of last year - and stocks of notes are dwindling, too...

    http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/about/stats.htm
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    July index was 3.2%
    Aug index was 3.8%
    .....
    Dec index was 0.5%
    Jan index was 1.1%

    Food index in July 9.5%
    Food index in August 10%
    ...............
    Food Dec 7.5%
    Food Jan 6.2%


    Hardly stunning proof that we are about to enter stagflation is it ?

    "unprecedented promotional activity by retailers in December has temporarily reversed this trend."


    Perhaps that was a clue.
    US housing: it's not a bubble

    Moneyweek, December 2005
  • Zagu
    Zagu Posts: 2,711 Forumite
    purch wrote: »
    Can't wait :T

    Why?

    ...........
    "I'm not even supposed to be here today."
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