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NHS dentist did more harm than good...

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  • NHS dental contract needs throwing away
  • donnac2558
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    Yes go to Hungry:rotfl:
  • welshdent
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    This incident is nothing to do with the NHS contract. See my post above. I have seen this happen regardless of the funding arrangements.
  • Under NHS funding root canals are rushed making errors more likely
  • Lorian
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    I had a very similar issue with perforation on a root canal about 10 years ago. the tooth was root filled, but the perforation was left, and was only discovered some time (I forget how long) later when pain reoccurred, but which time it had a crown on the top. I went private to a specialist who cleaned and filled with cement using microscope. I paid £500 + cost of a new crown. I guess that was possible as long as 10 years ago, and so far I still have the tooth so I consider it money well spent. I never gave a thought to complain to the first dentist.

    I'm not sure of the stats behind it, but I'd have been a bit concerned at anyone doing a root without a dam to start off with, but no doubt someone will mention is that is an important factor in a good job being done.
  • welshdent
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    Under NHS funding root canals are rushed making errors more likely


    At the risk of banging my head against the wall. Perforation is NOT because it is rushed. Not disinfecting for long enough or not using rubber dam I may agree with you on. Perforation I do not. You are wrong. I have repaired perforations done from private practitioners and NHS practitioners. Both occur for the same reasons and none are because the dentist was rushing.
  • Would a private practitioner, when faced with the blood coming from the tooth realise what they had done and fix the problem instead of just sending them on their way?
  • welshdent
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    Would a private practitioner, when faced with the blood coming from the tooth realise what they had done and fix the problem instead of just sending them on their way?

    Not necessarily and they wouldnt necessarily be able to fix it either. I know MANY private practitioners that are not equipped to repair a perforation.

    You muddy NHS and private repeatedly. It is just a funding system. NHS does not mean a bad dentist and private does not good. The dentist is what makes them good. What extra training they do and their own ethics etc etc etc.
    I will say this till I am blue in the face. A perforation is NOT a time thing its based on the complicated procedure, lack of access sometimes, maybe poor lighting, lack of magnification etc etc. You are so anti NHS dentists in your posts that you do not seem willing to accept any other possibility - I am mostly NHS and have repaired many perforations. I have repaired perforations from private practitioners. You are wrong with your assumption here.
  • Apollonia
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    Hi Welshdent,

    izzybella16 seems to be extremely bitter and angry where NHS dentistry is concerned. So much so that I had a little look at the GDC website.

    A GDC hearing in December 2015 to confirmed a dentist's suspension (June 2015 - Dec 2016). The name of the suspended dentist is similar to the user name here.

    So, less likely to be Barry or Evlynne undercover but very probably someone with a massive grudge against NHS dentistry. And too much time on their hands now :)
  • I understand the way dentistry works, my problem is the NHS contracts not the dentist themselves. My point is everyone would be better off without them, because people think everything will be OK any problems will get treated on the NHS under bands 1,2 or 3. If people had to get dental insurance themselves they would take more care of their teeth and if a problem did arise it would be fixed adequately. NHS contracts produces amalgam fillings and refusal to do or terrible root canals a lot of the time.
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