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Where to buy bike lights you can't steal?

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  • Chomeur
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    Agh!! Happened to me again with a hired bike in Brussels recently. Went over a bump, light jumped out, had to stop and walk back to pick it up, slightly cracked. So it's not just me fitting them incorrectly.
  • GwylimT
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    ljonski wrote: »
    tres simple. Front light= Divers headlamp on your head. Back light Small back light attached to back of rucksack.- Job done.

    Due to the fact that cyclists lean forward and backwards throughout their cycle light on rucksacks often cannot be seen. Due to the heat position as well the light would be rather dipped and not as visible as a bike mounted light.
  • GwylimT
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    My lights are dynamo's, you can fit them yourself, as they are actually a part of your bike a thief would need to be going around with wire cutters, which isn't likely and it would destroy them anyway so no one else would then be able to use them. Really though it takes seconds to remove lights, don't be so lazy!
  • Johnmcl7
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    Chomeur wrote: »
    Agh!! Happened to me again with a hired bike in Brussels recently. Went over a bump, light jumped out, had to stop and walk back to pick it up, slightly cracked. So it's not just me fitting them incorrectly.

    I have two of the lights that came after that one (the 650) which I use on all my bikes two of which are mountain bikes and they get ridden pretty hard, I've never had a light fall off once so the lights falling of is certainly not an inherent part of having lights.

    I just always take my lights with me as I have at least the helmet to carry with me anyway and this time of year a headband and gloves plus if the light can be easily removed it makes it easy to move the lights between bikes.

    John
  • esuhl wrote: »
    .........
    Besides... Why worry about cyclists who don't have lights? So long as you genuinely haven't been able to see them, you can pretty much hit them with impunity! I certainly don't worry about mountaineers who don't use safety-ropes or tightrope walker without a safety net!
    .......

    What an appalling attitude to take, just because someone hasn't taken as much care as someone else doesn't mean we should regard them as to be hit with impunity.
    A cyclist without lights will still be exempt from any requirement to be insured. So who will pay for the damage to your car?

    A cyclist with lights will still be exempt from insurance, and if damage to your car is the only thing your worrying about if you hit someone then your attitude is as equally appalling as esuhls.
  • AndyBSG
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    The failure of the cycle industry to provide an integrated lighting system on their products is just one of the ways in which they have failed to keep up with changing times. The absence of an integrated locking system is another.

    If I buy my bike purely for track racing then I don't want or need lights or a lock to create more weight and drag.

    On the other hand if I go hacking through forests and hills during the dark I need a very different set of lights to someone who only uses them on streets so if I have a set of integrated flashing lights for road use fitted as standard then they're no use to me if I need a high powered spot light.

    Bikes don't have lock or lights as standard because each cyclists requirements are different.
  • With the nights drawing in the number of people I've seen cycling around at 5 or 6pm without any lights or reflective bits is shocking. I cycle commute about half the time and drive the rest and these muppets without lights are almost invisible when I'm driving; to be honest some people with single cheap lights are still almost invisible in areas without much streetlighting and with the bright lights from oncoming cars etc. I actually find good-sized reflective bits - especially "proper" hi vis jackets - are easier to see than someone wearing all dark colours with crappy lights.

    Anyway it's kind of terrifying and has made me put lights everywhere when I'm cycling, I look like a christmas tree! On the front a large bright spot type light on the front, a 3-LED catseye set to flashing, and a couple of single LEDs hooked to clothing. On the back a flashing catseye clipped to the bottom of my rucksack, a fibre light attached to one of the rear wheel stays, and reflective ankle strips with flashing LEDs. Plus as much reflective stuff on clothing, bag, shoes, pedals, etc. The annoying thing about my bike is that there is no room on the saddle post to put a light - my frame is the correct size but the wheels are too big and block a light there.

    I do think there's something to be said for having bikes come with integral lights as standard. Perhaps it's something that could be aimed at makers of cheaper bikes like Apollo etc rather than making it a legal thing.
  • AndyBSG
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    The annoying thing about my bike is that there is no room on the saddle post to put a light - my frame is the correct size but the wheels are too big and block a light there.

    How about mounting it on the frame itself?

    Above the rear wheel there should be a 'bridge' of metal that spans the top of the two rear forks.

    This should usually have a hole through the middle for a nut and bolt that's usually used to mount a reflector on but you can get lights that mount there as well on extendable brackets which push it above the wheel.
  • AndyBSG
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    Chomeur wrote: »
    Agh!! Happened to me again with a hired bike in Brussels recently. Went over a bump, light jumped out, had to stop and walk back to pick it up, slightly cracked. So it's not just me fitting them incorrectly.

    Try something like this

    http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Cateye-TL-LD610-Rear-Light_12054.htm

    It's sideways mounted and the light itself clips in very securely, you'd have to REALLY force it to get it to come off without pressing the quick release button in.
  • AndyBSG wrote: »
    How about mounting it on the frame itself?

    Above the rear wheel there should be a 'bridge' of metal that spans the top of the two rear forks.

    This should usually have a hole through the middle for a nut and bolt that's usually used to mount a reflector on but you can get lights that mount there as well on extendable brackets which push it above the wheel.

    I think I've got my mudguards attached to that - although only with a cable tie to stop them rattling - but there still should be space for a light. I think a light here would still be obscured by the wheel/mudguard because of the size of the wheel - but the brackets sound useful - I will investigate. Thanks! The fibrelight seems to work well and gives me good side visibility too. Plus it's bendy and that's just cool.
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