im on work programme unemployed, but jc told them "i found work"

reborndoll · 18 January 2013 at 5:57PM

I didnt get asked in for an appointment I was expecting and advisor rang me and when spoke to my WP advisor they said the benefit people sent them a letter and it simply said "client found work" .

I signed on as usual last week, and money was paid as normal, the date they told WP people that I started work, I was sitting in work programme.

What the??? I havent worked in several years, as am a single/divorced parent and trying to find work around the kids schooling.

Anyone else been taken off work programme for a job they dont even have? I take it it is some clerical error?

AP007 · 24 January 2013 at 5:21PM

You have lost me. What is the question?

DCFC79 · 24 January 2013 at 5:31PM

Yes its a clerical error or it sounds that way to me.

AP007 · 24 January 2013 at 6:49PM

so you are still signing on and getting your benefits?

If so and the WP have not got back to you re appointments leave it as if you have not signed off they got the info from somewhere.

AP007 · 24 January 2013 at 11:35PM

reborndoll wrote: »

yes am still signing on , attending job interviews and keeping a quite extensive universal jobmatch log online for them to look at at their leisure , I would dearly love to tell the wp to get stuffed as they have been hopeless all they done was helped me fill a cv in to bombard potential employers in snail mail,( who only recruit online nowadays), but it was my belief that WP would keep in touch with me via tel etc , even if I do find work?

They just don't know what to do with me, cos I have limited hours I can work due to childcare and I have no experience of any job except some bits of voluntary that is washing dishes in a church cafe LOL hardly worth jotting on CV.

i quite enjoy twidddling my thumbs at a public pc station applying for jobs that say experience necessary and or CAR, ie I have no chance of getting! that is wp for you! oh and free coffee that ive never drank....they only have about 10 jobs to offer , temporary things as well....the people I talk to in waiting room are nice though, strangely can i say this? all poor dishevelled middle aged men the poor things sitting with unfresh clothing , that have the faint stench of alcohol and halitosis wafting off their breath, who are finding it difficult to read/write and in some cases, talk to the rest in the "workshops" it is even harder for them .They dont intend to be this way but are stuck in a poverty trap. This is my personal experience of the work programmes clients .

I am on the WP and I go in to see them in a suit so thats not all of us who look like that at all but I see people who look like they live in a bin and many who have not had a wash stinking the place out.

You need to find out who told the WP you had got a job and its not up to you to get the wp to make you an appt as someone has told them and if it wasnt you its the job centre

AP007 · 25 January 2013 at 12:34AM

reborndoll wrote: »

yes Isome men show up like they sleep rough and I notice there is the pump action hand cleanser stuff in a dispenser I always rub some in after using the computer, I have a computer at home anyway but a lot of people dont and it is supposed to assist people But with even a job to clean bogs saying "experience only" what hope have we got?

My WP advisor told me via tel, that the Jobcentre Plus had informed them in a letter that I had " found work" and when I raised it with my local Jobcentre (as instructed) so it turns out it has been a mistake , and they have nothing at all on the databank about it, and she got my screen up/file, there was zero mention of anything. It said claim was LIVE and she turned screen round to show me and sat looking puzzled.

True story, I have had to show the bloke in the Jobcentreplus office how to access my activity log the week on Universal Jobmatch site just before xmas as he admitted he hadn't a clue and he "was looking in the wrong bit". huh!

you do not even have to joing the UJM or show them your acct at all

So what are the JC advising you?

Two4Tuesday · 25 January 2013 at 9:42AM

Most likely explanation is clerical error - someone else with a similar name found work and the WP applied the note to your account.

Edit: That person is likely getting letters from the WP telling them they will be sanctioned for not attending... and I'm surprised that the WP haven't been hassling you asking where you are 'working' to get their bonus payments.

busy_mom_2 · 25 January 2013 at 11:08AM

If a person notifies the JCP they have found work the JCP send to the WP a WP07 form, ask to see this form then you will know who is telling the truth. It will have your name, nation insurance number and details of the date you have started work. If JCP have sent it then you can go back to them and ask why they have sent it, if the WP cannot produce the form then I would say the mistake is with them.

busy_mom_2 · 25 January 2013 at 11:12AM

reborndoll wrote: »

to quote my brother who was unemployed in the 90's for about 18mths
" your life is not your own when you sign on" it is true, and even worse nowadays, you get benefits after a lot of form filling and being assessed. And you forget one appointment and you are sanctioned .It is horrible treated like you are scum.

And it will continue to get worse I'm afraid. But to be far there are still people who do not help them selves.

I spoke to a customer yesterday in our office kicking off because he now has a 26 week sanction for not applying for a job, reason he 'didn't get round to it'. This is now the 3rd time in 8 weeks he hasn't got round to applying for a job because he has other things to do and now faces a third sanction and it will be 3 years. Eight years unemployed, I say about time too.:beer:

AP007 · 25 January 2013 at 2:06PM

Two4Tuesday wrote: »

Most likely explanation is clerical error - someone else with a similar name found work and the WP applied the note to your account.

Edit: That person is likely getting letters from the WP telling them they will be sanctioned for not attending... and I'm surprised that the WP haven't been hassling you asking where you are 'working' to get their bonus payments.

the jc use NI numbers to ID people, not names

Morlock · 25 January 2013 at 2:37PM

busy_mom wrote: »

I spoke to a customer yesterday in our office kicking off because he now has a 26 week sanction for not applying for a job, reason he 'didn't get round to it'. This is now the 3rd time in 8 weeks he hasn't got round to applying for a job because he has other things to do and now faces a third sanction and it will be 3 years. Eight years unemployed, I say about time too.:beer:

That is absolutely disgusting. I cannot believe your are revelling in someone getting a three year sanction, what a despicable person you are. Perhaps he needs help rather than punishment.

im on work programme unemployed, but jc told them "i found work"

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