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is this sexism?
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sunnysea83 wrote: »havent seen the applications but colleague involved in the process has said how wants an all female section etc. I just wondered as didnt want them to get in to any trouble etc
S/he's definitely asking for trouble, and s/he deserves it too!
And it's a stupid decision too, I personally find mixed gender teams best to manage. S/he probably never managed a female only (or male only) team is that's what s/he's trying to set up. Good luck to them.....0 -
melorablack wrote: »Is there even any type of job that could only physically be done by a woman (or a man for that matter)?
Just seen princessleah_'s post so obviously not including things like that....:o
There are several I'm sure... one that springs to mind is a home carer position that involves helping the client with personal care. If I needed a carer like that I'd want a female one. So it can be stipulated in the job description.
Doesn't seem the case in the situation the OP mentioned though!
Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.0 -
Can you give us more details OP? How many applicants were there, and what proportion were male?Gone ... or have I?0
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melorablack wrote: »Is there even any type of job that could only physically be done by a woman (or a man for that matter)?
Just seen princessleah_'s post so obviously not including things like that....:o
Bra fitting can be advertised as female only
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Very risky tactic only inviting women for interview.
http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/recruitment/recruitment-fraud.htm
plenty of other references if you look0 -
An interesting tactic employed by some is to tick the DDA box or disclose a minority ethnicity when this is not actually the case. Many large employers with two ticks accreditation will err on the side of caution and select for interview rather than run the potential tribunal gauntlet. As the recruiting panel [STRIKE]are not supposed to[/STRIKE] do not know the DDA/minority status, they can hardly interrogate when an apparently able bodied white person turns up who has ticked the DDA/affro-carribean box.getmore4less wrote: »Very risky tactic only inviting women for interview.
http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/recruitment/recruitment-fraud.htm
plenty of other references if you look0 -
An interesting tactic employed by some is to tick the DDA box or disclose a minority ethnicity when this is not actually the case. Many large employers with two ticks accreditation will err on the side of caution and select for interview rather than run the potential tribunal gauntlet. As the recruiting panel [STRIKE]are not supposed to[/STRIKE] do not know the DDA/minority status, they can hardly interrogate when an apparently able bodied white person turns up who has ticked the DDA/affro-carribean box.
This would not work in practice.
In my experience the interviewing panel, or at least some of them, are the ones shortlisting, not HR.0 -
The application forms should not go to the recruiting/shortlistng panel in the first instance, but to HR. HR then remove the equality/diversity monitoring form and forward the rest. Check any Govt or LG vacancies [or many large companies] and you'll see they have this covered.terra_ferma wrote: »This would not work in practice.
In my experience the interviewing panel, or at least some of them, are the ones shortlisting, not HR.
We want to make sure that our equal opportunities policy is working so we need you to fill in the equal opportunities monitoring section of the application form. We hope you don’t mind us asking for this personal information but we have a legal duty to monitor information on equal opportunities. Please note that the short listing and interview panel do not see this information.
Please tell us if you consider yourself to be disabled. We recognise and welcome our responsibility to remove any barriers in our recruitment process for disabled applicants.
If the employer lets slip they have seen the equality/diversity monitoring they are leaving themselves vulnerable to a claim.0 -
Many companies are too small to have a HR department. I am a voluntary director for a charity and the policy is that those who shortlist are also those who interview.0
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Yes, that's why I said large companies, Govt and LG have this covered. These are the ones likely to be targeted for claims because it's often deemed easier or better to avoid bad PR to settle out of court. The claimants realise that large companies may get wrapped up in bureaucracy and make key errors in communication and procedures. It is these errors and loopholes that are then exploited.0
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