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  • Hippychick
    Hippychick Posts: 738 Forumite
    We are currently buying a house and are taking out a mortgage of 3.2x joint income. Our monthly mortgage payment is 28% of our takehome pay. For us that is a very affordable figure, we don't really want to borrow more.


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  • WhiteThierry
    WhiteThierry Posts: 166 Forumite
    Hippychick wrote: »
    We are currently buying a house and are taking out a mortgage of 3.2x joint income. Our monthly mortgage payment is 28% of our takehome pay. For us that is a very affordable figure, we don't really want to borrow more.


    if the recession has had any benefits its that maybe more people are going to be sensible with their money like yourself.

    But i doubt it, i suspect you're the minority and within a few years we'll all be jumping on the excessive borrowing bandwagon
  • Mozette
    Mozette Posts: 2,247 Forumite
    I'm single, mid 40s, hoping to retire is less than 15 years, and my outstanding mortgage is about 1.5 x my salary with about 10 years left to run. I really don't plan on moving, I have a home that I really like, and though I do sometimes wonder about retiring nearer the coast, I doubt if I'll ever be bothered - depends on my health really. Though my mortgage has cost a fair bit more, and I've coped, I do like having the extra money as it is has helped make life a bit easier.

    My 'fear' would be not having enough money to live on, to me more important than having a bigger/grander/better house. I'm happy in my current home, which is only the 3rd I've ever had, and only the 2nd that I've owned (or co-owned with the building society at least!)
  • Mr_Matey
    Mr_Matey Posts: 608 Forumite
    I voted < 3x salary, as a future first time buyer.

    I don't plan on getting myself into massive amounts of debt, and have been building a juicy deposit. I'm not in a rush to buy though, as I'd prefer to see my investment money go up in value and spend some seeing the world to settling down.
  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    JonnyBravo wrote: »
    Really? How old are you?
    I wouldn't bet on it.

    I'd agree with most of everything else you said though.

    Perhaps I should have qualified that a little. I'm in my early 20's and so will probably see a couple of crashes in my lifetime, but I doubt that I'll ever be in a better position to take advantage of it. I'm currently renting with my girlfriend and apart from the obvious desire to get our own place and settle down, we're in no hurry to move out of rented accomodation and buy.

    Years down the line when the next crash occurs, we might not be able to sell before the crash and STR (if you jump too soon, you do more damage than good, some people STRd in 2003 and may wait a decade for it to have paid, if ever) or we'll have children and selling up and moving is a lot more difficult.

    As a childless couple who are living in rented accomodation with deposits in place, we'll never be in a better position to take advantage of a HPC, so we're going to make damn sure we do our best out of this one! :)
    "I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.
  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    Mozette wrote: »
    I'm single, mid 40s, hoping to retire is less than 15 years, and my outstanding mortgage is about 1.5 x my salary with about 10 years left to run. I really don't plan on moving, I have a home that I really like, and though I do sometimes wonder about retiring nearer the coast, I doubt if I'll ever be bothered - depends on my health really. Though my mortgage has cost a fair bit more, and I've coped, I do like having the extra money as it is has helped make life a bit easier.

    My 'fear' would be not having enough money to live on, to me more important than having a bigger/grander/better house. I'm happy in my current home, which is only the 3rd I've ever had, and only the 2nd that I've owned (or co-owned with the building society at least!)

    I hope you don't mind me asking, but I've had a lot of angst recently because I am not saving towards a pension. I always thought that retirement at 55 was a pipedream for ordinary people, so could you give me some insight how you're going to manage it, because once I've been in my house for a couple of years my next step is going to be blitzing the pension and any pointers I can gain will be invaluable.
    "I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.
  • Mozette
    Mozette Posts: 2,247 Forumite
    I hope you don't mind me asking, but I've had a lot of angst recently because I am not saving towards a pension. I always thought that retirement at 55 was a pipedream for ordinary people, so could you give me some insight how you're going to manage it, because once I've been in my house for a couple of years my next step is going to be blitzing the pension and any pointers I can gain will be invaluable.


    Not at all! It is down to pure luck on my part. I work for the civil service, and have done for more years than I care to remember, and am in one of those lovely and soon to be extinct final salary pension schemes.

    Many moons ago when I was applying for pretty much any job I could get, they were the only ones to offer me a job.

    I can't say it was my dream job, but as things have turned out, it was fairly fortuitous, at the time, but alas no more. New joiners have a whole different type of pension. Bet MPs don't though...:rolleyes:

    Mind you, I'll be pretty much 60 - when I say mid 40s...
  • nearlynew
    nearlynew Posts: 3,800 Forumite

    As a childless couple who are living in rented accomodation with deposits in place, we'll never be in a better position to take advantage of a HPC, so we're going to make damn sure we do our best out of this one! :)


    So wait and take proper advantage.

    Prices are nowhere near the bottom yet.

    Time and patience are your best weapons.
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  • bluey890
    bluey890 Posts: 1,020 Forumite
    nearlynew wrote: »
    So wait and take proper advantage.

    Prices are nowhere near the bottom yet.

    Time and patience are your best weapons.

    House prices are decided by people..
    People aren't rational..

    It's therefore not possible to predict with certainty which way house prices are going to go.

    A lot depends on what the Government and BOE decide to do with sterling.
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  • nearlynew
    nearlynew Posts: 3,800 Forumite
    edited 7 June 2009 at 7:51PM
    bluey890 wrote: »
    House prices are decided by people..
    People aren't rational..

    It's therefore not possible to predict with certainty which way house prices are going to go.

    A lot depends on what the Government and BOE decide to do with sterling.

    I don't care how anyone responds to this post or what economist they quote, I can confidently predict that average house prices will be lower this time next year.

    100% correct and gauranteed.
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    Albert Einstein
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