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    • vivatifosi
    • By vivatifosi 21st Feb 08, 1:42 PM
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    Scam appears to be targeting over 50s/infirm
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    • 21st Feb 08, 1:42 PM
    Scam appears to be targeting over 50s/infirm 21st Feb 08 at 1:42 PM
    I'm posting this on the over 50s board as I think more people from the group targeted are likely to see this than on the "scams" board.

    My aunt was contacted by a company called Craftmatic, which sells adjustable beds. A couple of years ago she was approached by them while in a wheelchair to find out if she wanted to win a bed. She entered their competition and didn't here anything. Fast forward quite a long time and she receives a call asking her if they could pop round as she had won a £500 voucher instead and they needed to hand it over in person. They also asked her age and whether she lived alone, which rang alarm bells. In fact they phoned her several times, and always asked these two questions.

    The family arranged to be there when Craftmatic called. Guess what, no voucher, just a sales presentation and someone in your home for three hours. Oh, and if you want the voucher you've got to fill out some survey for a month also.

    Now, I'm not saying that their products are or aren't good, I don't know. I also don't have a problem with them selling to people who want a bed and realise they've received a sales call. But I do find ANY company that uses pseudo-competitions to gain access to the homes of the elderly or infirm diabolical.

    Edited to add: the catalogue that the voucher is for - The UK World Gift Catalogue - is also on several websites as a scam itself.

    The local Trading Standards have been informed.

    Sorry for hijacking this board with my soapbox, I'll get off now!

    Thanks for reading.
    Last edited by vivatifosi; 21-02-2008 at 1:57 PM.
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    • vivatifosi
    • By vivatifosi 21st Feb 08, 2:17 PM
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    • 21st Feb 08, 2:17 PM
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    • 21st Feb 08, 2:17 PM
    Hi Margaret,

    I hope you did not see my post as ageist. My aunt and I are not that different in age and our brains function fine. While age is presumably a key demographic for this bunch, the main problem with this company is that they seem to target people who live alone. For the life of me I can't see how whether you live with someone will be an indicator of size of bed as most of the people I know who live alone have double beds anyway.

    However the phrase in my mind should not be caveat emptor, buyer beware; but whatever is Latin for winner beware.
    • vivatifosi
    • By vivatifosi 21st Feb 08, 3:25 PM
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    • 21st Feb 08, 3:25 PM
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    • 21st Feb 08, 3:25 PM
    About the one brain cell, my daughter was talking about that yesterday. She says she'd like to get a hat which says 'It's my legs that don't work, there's nothing wrong with my brain!'

    Margaret
    Originally posted by margaretclare
    Ha, ha I like that. Would go with the car sticker that my friend has. It says "You've got my parking space now do you want my disability?"
    • Mike by the Sea
    • By Mike by the Sea 22nd Feb 08, 1:41 AM
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    • 22nd Feb 08, 1:41 AM
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    • 22nd Feb 08, 1:41 AM
    Funnily enough I got one of those through yesterday from Craftmatic in the post telling me I had access to winning loads of money - all I had to do was order the free brochure and give my phone number.:rolleyes:
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    • babyblooz
    • By babyblooz 13th Aug 08, 7:03 PM
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    • 13th Aug 08, 7:03 PM
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    • 13th Aug 08, 7:03 PM
    I can sort of remember seeing something somewhere about these kind of companies. If you ring them, and they come and see you at your own home, then it is classed as an invititation or something, and you don't get the usual cooling off period where you can change your mind and get your deposit back etc. So if you see their advert, ring them, and they come round and talk you into buying one, any deposit you get is non-refundable. Not sure, but something along those lines, so please beware!
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    • noratw
    • By noratw 13th Aug 08, 9:51 PM
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    • 13th Aug 08, 9:51 PM
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    • 13th Aug 08, 9:51 PM
    the law will change in the autumn to make all contracts signed off trade premises cancellable, even if you have "invited" the sales person. I think there are details on the BERR webite.
    • missile
    • By missile 14th Aug 08, 10:23 AM
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    • 14th Aug 08, 10:23 AM
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    • 14th Aug 08, 10:23 AM
    Unfortunately it seems anyone over 50 or disabled is seen by some sales "executives" as a sucker to be fleeced.
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    • margaretclare
    • By margaretclare 14th Aug 08, 10:58 AM
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    • 14th Aug 08, 10:58 AM
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    • 14th Aug 08, 10:58 AM
    ]Hi Margaret,

    I hope you did not see my post as ageist[/B] . My aunt and I are not that different in age and our brains function fine. While age is presumably a key demographic for this bunch, the main problem with this company is that they seem to target people who live alone. For the life of me I can't see how whether you live with someone will be an indicator of size of bed as most of the people I know who live alone have double beds anyway.

    However the phrase in my mind should not be caveat emptor, buyer beware; but whatever is Latin for winner beware.
    by vivatifosi;8808885[B
    I never said a word!!!!

    However, there are many so-called 'competitions' offering holidays etc, but the only real purpose of these competitions is to get your name and address.

    Don't be tempted!

    BTW following my remarriage and as part of 'doing up' the bedroom, DH and I bought a new bed - a king-size, but we went to Dreams plc for it. You're encouraged to get on the beds in the showroom and try them out, something I doubt if you could do if you bought one in your own home.
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    • vivatifosi
    • By vivatifosi 14th Aug 08, 11:59 AM
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    • 14th Aug 08, 11:59 AM
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    • 14th Aug 08, 11:59 AM
    Crikey I can't believe the old thread is back!

    A bit of additional info: we did get some additional calls from Trading Standards after the first post - so they did seem to be taking matters further. Haven't heard anything since though, and funnily enough, even this many months down the line didn't get the voucher or the gift catalogue either... Not that we're particularly surprised.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 17th Aug 08, 10:29 AM
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    Just passing through.......

    It seems Craftmatic even get into trouible over the recruitment of their commission-only salespersons. Here's a link to an Advertising Standards Agency report:

    http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_44238.htm

    A quick scan of the Internet shows complaints about these guys' sharp practices go back years.
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