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Results: What is your Favorite time of Year to visit Las Vegas


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    • trets77
    • By trets77 29th Dec 07, 12:37 PM
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    The Las Vegas Thread and MSE guide
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    The Las Vegas Thread and MSE guide 29th Dec 07 at 12:37 PM

    .. is not like other places you might have been, where the Hotels are near to the attractions . in Vegas the Hotels are the attractions. most have a huge casino attached , but if you think thats all there is to the place , you are sorely mistaken .

    in a Family Fortunes style question if you asked 100 people something they associate with Las Vegas , I'd bet you my house the top answer would be "gambling". yet there is so much more.

    This page cannot hope to cover everything , but hopefully should point you towards some good money saving tips

    How to get there

    Las Vegas is 5235 miles from London , with flight times in the region of 10 hours +

    you could book a package from pretty much any online or high street travel agent that would include flights and hotels. however this is a money saving site so we try to beat those prices by booking things separately .Thats not to say a package deal might not be a cheaper option . it's easy to work out if a deal you have been quoted is value for money . If the price of the package (X) is more than the price of the flight via the Airline (A) + the Price of the Resort ( or similar quality resort) listed in the deal links below (B) then why not save money and book things separately .

    so please before you post the question " is this a good deal " please work out the following is X>A+B ? . if you are booking in advance there might not be a deal for your hotel yet , but you should be able to get a reasonable idea of prices by looking at current deals, but be sure to factor in any holidays / sporting events / big conventions ect.

    only three airlines at the time of writing operate direct flights to Las Vegas , and only one of those operates flights everyday and BMI will terminate their direct flights Easter 2009 .

    Virgin fly everyday from Gatwick airport .however be warned this flight is poor quality . the planes used (747's) are old and tatty with cramped uncomfortable seats arranged in a bad configuration . there are frequent tales of failing in seat entertainment, running out of drinks halfway over, long queues at check in ( especially on the return flight) and surly staff.

    Virgin's new Airbus A340's planes and service are excellent but they are not on the Las Vegas route , and they only highlight more how poor the older planes are. Because Virgin have a monopoly on direct flights to Las Vegas from the south of England , they can get away with this , while trading on the reputation and feedback of their better flights ( which are on routes where they do have direct competition) . There were rumors of the 747 planes being replaced in the near future ,but it seems the credit crunch has ended this for now.

    Make sure you take the Quidco cashback available if you book with Virgin

    BMI currently fly from Manchester on Tuesdays , but the service will cease Easter 2009 !!

    Thomas Cook (AKA My travel )fly Wednesdays and Saturdays in summer and Wednesdays only in Winter , again from Manchester. Max jet was operating flights but went bust xmas 2007

    (a note about Thomas Cook flights , the baggage allowance is a very poor 15kg ( upgradeable to 20kg) , and the flights in June + July may well see your flight stopping off at Belfast or Glasgow to pick passengers up , making them not much better than indirect flights that connect in a American city . prices for these flights often get lower the nearer to your dates you leave it until they sell out , but probably won't in Traditional summer holiday times ( June to early Sept) where they are nearly fully booked well in advance.

    should you consider flying indirect there are many choices available , and far too many to cover here, but please be sure you know what you are letting yourself in for . flying times direct are 10 hours plus . you can probably add a few hours on top of that flying indirect .

    Getting a good fare is not straightforward . Factors that can see you getting that good fare are
    be prepared to travel mid week not at the weekends like everyone else.
    look into you flight upto 11 months before you fly if you can.
    Time of year
    most Brits like to take holidays June till September .
    asking advice to regular posters on this site .
    Airline Sales and Offers
    airlines know when people start thinking about booking trips , keeping very regular tabs on the airlines websites for sales and fare reductions is a good idea. also some airlines offer reduced fares for frequent flyer's and members of there flying clubs.MSE members have found good fares by booking before Xmas for the following year , when Xmas is over lots of people start planning their holidays.
    great fares can be had if you a prepared to wait till very close to your chosen dates.

    before booking you should check that you qualify for entry to the USA under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) . Also from January 2009 you will need to obtain a ESTA ( Electronic System for Travel Authorization ) to board a flight to the USA . you can find info on ESTA here . you can apply for one here

    Where to stay

    The Strip is where most visitors tend to stay , a few casinos worth staying at are slightly off strip and usually have a free shuttle bus to and from the strip.the other main area is called Downtown, where the standard of accommodation is lower ( and cheaper ) than most of the strip.

    if your a first time visitor you really should try to stay on the strip if your budget allows . you can then check out the other areas to see if you would consider them on a return visit.

    A common posted question on the old Las Vegas thread was "where is nice but reasonably priced ". It is a hard question to answer. none of the main strip hotels are likely to make it on to a " Hotels from Hell" show on ITV, but you do get what you pay for. a good starting place is to look at the following link

    anything with a Four star rating is unlikely to displease the Vast majority of people . but a fair few people will probably be happy with something in the Three star bracket and consider the hotel to be nice.

    A word of warning about using Tripadvisor to pick your hotel. there are nearly 300 hotels reviewed on the site meaning good hotels can end up way down the list in the 30's 40's and below . Also the site lists hotels that are in the Las Vegas area , but no where near the strip. South point for example is listed as 8th best reviewed hotel , and is on Las Vegas Boulevard but it is about a 15 min car ride to the heart of strip and is not walkable in any circumstances .

    The Hotels on the strip to most wary about are unsurprisingly the cheapest. They are Circus Circus , The Stratosphere , The Rivera , Sahara , The IP , Excalibur ,Hooters and The Tropicanna . post for some advice before booking

    There is no set price for the majority of hotel rooms . it's a myth that rooms are given away for next to nothing. rooms are priced on a supply and demand basis . if the hotel is selling rooms at a high price why discount? but if they are not then there is no money to be made from empty rooms.

    prices for your hotel room can vary day to day , let alone week to week. Normal Friday and Saturday night prices are always more expensive than normal weekday prices ( upto 3 times as expensive is not unusual) . other things that can have a big impact on the price you pay to stay at your preferred location are.

    Big sporting events
    Super bowl weekend in January for example or the Rodeo finals at the start of December, March Madness basketball which starts on the 20th in 2008.. also Big Boxing matches

    Large Conventions
    Events like the The Consumer electronics show , can have 150,000 attending . here is a calendar to try to avoid large convention dates

    USA public holidays
    19 Jan Martin Luther King Day.
    16 Feb Presidents' Day.
    25 May Memorial Day.
    4 Jul Independence Day.
    7 Sep Labor Day.
    12 Oct Columbus Day.
    11 Nov Veterans' Day.
    26 Nov Thanksgiving Day

    also special events like Halloween etc can push prices up.

    Popular times
    a lot of this has to do with the weather . July and August are often disliked because of the intense heat. January and December are also quite months ( pools often close down in October till March ) . That said Las Vegas is a year round destination. Many consider the best months to visit as April, May , Sept , and October . Prices for UK flights in traditional UK holiday months of June to Early Sept always seem to much more expensive than April or May ( excluding bank holidays and Easter of course) , yet April and May are better times to visit . By not going in the Traditional UK holiday season , you could save a considerable amount of money on your flight, meaning more money to spend on your hotel.

    finding a good deal on a room usually only requires a small amount of searching. Booking through the Hotels direct has BIG advantages . first you are cutting out the middleman . second all of the hotels operate the same booking policy, that you only need to pay your first nights rate as a deposit and the deposit is 100% refundable if you cancel upto 72 hours before you stay. this is generally the rule with all hotel offers but there are exceptions . Some Luxor offers and other MGM group owned casinos ,offers have recently have been NO REFUND offers and The Rivera charges a small cancellation fee at the time of writing. be sure to check all terms and Conditions before you book to be sure .Offers can become available any time , but generally start appearing 12 weeks before your dates

    There are several websites that list offers and discounts for hotels. remember these sites simply list the deals that Casinos release so there is no need for a flashy website.Unless stated the offers usually take you to a direct booking with the Casino is a good place to start as it lists offers in date and/or hotel order . and it's sister site which allows you to type in your travel dates to search all the deals available .

    the next link you should check is the Fatwallet deals thread . there is very handy round up of all casinos current offers on the 1st page as well

    Other sites to check out are 3e&topic=57.90

    please be careful about posting on these boards though as some are for the posting of deals only , not for questions on deals etc.

    some deals say they require you to be a member of the Players club to book. usually if you can book it without a players club ID, then they won't generally ask for it at check in.
    FAQ number 4 on the Fatwallet page ( covers this subject well. but the important thing is NOT to bombard the hotel with phone calls and e mails about honoring the booking without a players club card. otherwise they might pull the offer ect ( or tip them off to very thing you are concerned about) . people on this thread have done these type of bookings without being signed up members .. no problem .you can of course join the club before checking in if you want . personally i would not worry , but don't be tempted to call the hotel if you book it and you are worried

    when you have found and booked a hotel , it's a good idea to keep checking the new offers as they come in on the Fatwallet Thread as you might find a better deal for the same dates . If the better offer is for the same hotel , you can probably get the hotel to match the better price under your existing booking by calling them up ( don't forget to use the MSE International call checker !!) . Really good offers may not hang around if there is a lot of interest , so get in early if you see a new one thats a great deal .

    Moving hotels is also a good idea if you find great deals for different blocks of nights , and is not as much hassle as you might think.

    Some people ask if it is better to find a hotel when you arrive , this is most defiantly not a good idea. besides the fact that you need to have your 1st nights stay booked up , to enter the USA under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) , simply showing up at a casino without a booking will almost certainly mean you being charged "Rack Rate " for a room , which is pretty much the most you can end up paying.


    McCarren Airport is right next to the strip . Shuttle Buses operate to all the main casinos . A Taxi is by far the most popular way to get to your hotel though. you can find a good estimate of the fare to your Hotel here
    if your hiring a car you will find directions clearly posted at the airport.
    If you really want to arrive in style why not rent a Limo from the airport , they cost around $50 a hour. If you share with someone off your flight it may work out as much as a Taxi

    Check in
    you can check in from the airport at some Casinos.
    when you check in the clerk will will assign you a room . some rooms of the same class are more desirable than others. Strip Views are always more sought after , as are corner rooms or rooms overlooking a casino attraction ( the Bellagio fountains for example) . also try to get a room that is not situated directly next to a should try to do as much research on the rooms within your casino as possible to find out what to ask for

    Cash is King is Las Vegas.. the following sites give advice on how to try and obtain a upgrade or a better positioned room by tipping the check in clerk using The $20 Trick.This works more often than not , but you may find it harder to get a upgrade by doing this if you have a long stay, or if the hotel is fully booked .Also don't expect to get a Penthouse suite from a standard room booking , you will probably only get one or two steps up the luxury ladder

    regardless of if you tip of not , if your not happy with the room , complain and get one you are happy with.

    Getting around
    If hiring a car you will have the choice of parking it yourself at the hotel( usually free) or using the Valet service ( a tip is usually given for Valet). The strip is very busy at most times traffic wise .Hiring a car gives you the freedom to explore the many great places to visit around Las Vegas , Like Lake Mead and The Hoover Dam for example , while being able to hop around the strip easily and cheaply

    Taxis are good option for speed and convenience , but cost more than the other methods of getting around the strip. also you cannot flag them down either , you have to get them called for you from the Casino or designated pick up areas .

    The Deuce is the local 24 hour bus service and is pretty reasonable.

    $5 is all it costs for a 24 hour pass up and down the strip. be warned though the buses fill up at popular mid strip locations and make it hard to get on at busy times.

    The Monorail runs from MGM Grand to The Sahara .

    full list of prices can be found here while it is certainly fast, clean and comfortable ,the downside is that you have to walk through which ever casino you get off at. Casinos are designed to be difficult places to escape , so it can be a trek to get back to the strip. if your going less than a mile your probably better off walking.

    Strip Trolleys are cheap at $2.50 a ride or $4.50 for a all day pass. however they don't run 24 hours , are not the most comfy ride , and tend to drop you at the back and sides of casinos

    There are also 2 free to ride Monorails . One connects The Mirage with Treasure Island. The Other one connects The Excalibur , Luxor and Mandalay Bay. This one has a interesting set up . If you catch it at The Excalibur it does not stop at the Luxor heading south. The Casino owners don't want you skipping Mandalay Bay , so it only stops at the Luxor on the return North journey .
    There are hundreds upon hundreds of places to eat in Las Vegas. It would be impossible to scratch the surface in terms of recommendations on this Post.

    Las Vegas provides pretty much every price range of food , from practically every type of world cuisine. from headline super pricey Celebrity chefs to cheap pile em high buffets ( and everything in between ) , you will find it in Vegas. so where do you choose to eat ??
    Your casino will almost certainly have more than a few places to eat at. But bare in mind the casino has a captive market so in house restaurants are often more expensive than independent/ off site restaurants . a good resource for dining options is a well researched guide book . i recommend "The Unofficial Guide To Las Vegas " it gives great tips on dining. or you can also find info and deals on this site

    There are still great deals to be had on food if your prepared to search them out. although some deals come and go , a few have been running for many years and should be around when you visit.

    $6.95 steak dinner at Ellis Island
    It's long been a table topper in Las Vegas Advisor's top 10 Vegas Values. a 10 oz Steak with salad , beans and choice of Potato . it's isn't actually on the menu though , you have to ask for it.available 24/7 . Ellis Island also does a highly rated BBQ for a mere $8.99. and thats not all, you can get a voucher for 2 for 1 meals @ Ellis island from either of the coupon books listed in the coupon section below.

    Shrimp Cocktail 99c at Golden Gate
    served from 11am till 2am

    Pasta at California Casino
    at the Pasta Pirate Restaurant

    Breakfast Specials $1.49
    served at Wild Wild West , Wildfire , Gold rush and Magic star. 12 am till 11 am

    Steak and Eggs $3.29
    at Arizona Charlie's Decatur . 24/7

    The most famous of dining options in Las Vegas are the Buffets . for a set price you can eat and drink as much as you want from the food selection available . Again you can choose from the Bargain to the expensive. don,t expect to find a small selection of food , Most buffets offer a huge choice of dishes. The Cravings Buffet in the Mirage for Example has many different stations from around the world , where food can also be cooked to order. Nearly all the Strip casinos have a buffet and it is unlikely you are either going to feel short changed or not find something you enjoy at nearly all of them. From the many many reviews i have read ( and of course the ones i have been too ) a few buffets come up time and time again with top marks. they are

    Planet Hollywood ( previously The Aladdin ) Spice market Buffet.
    Bellagio Buffet
    Paris Le Village Buffet
    Mirage Cravings Buffet
    Rio Carnival world Buffet
    Wynn Buffet
    Dishes @ T.I

    You will probably be pleased with the quality of most of the other Buffets on the Strip , however like the above certain Buffets Constantly get Bad reviews . there isn't enough time to get around the one's that get good reviews , let alone wasting time with ones that get regularly moaned about IMO. The buffets that most get moaned about are.
    Circus Circus
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    • trets77
    • By trets77 24th Dec 08, 8:09 PM
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    I always ask if there any complimentary upgrades and then say what I would like, ie high floor, strip view, specific room type etc. I keep the $20 in view and that would be for both nights.

    I wouldnt ask as per your quote in bold as there is no mention of COMP so they may say yes and then charge you rack rate.
    Originally posted by photome
    i have the $20 ready for when they ask for my credit card and ID and then politely say "i also have my upgrade voucher" . always gets a smile , and has always worked.
    Better in my pocket than theirs
  • bargaindoctor
    haha i like that. smooth. now i just gotta decide between the 2. i must say i'm swayed to caesars since i'll save $50 a night, which i can use towards other stuff

    sod it, i'm going to go with caesars! bellagio when i'm a rich man someday
    • pebblesmax
    • By pebblesmax 24th Dec 08, 8:45 PM
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    Nov 4th to Dec 4th in Las Vegas
    Don't panic, it's not a day by day, blow by blow account of our month in Vegas. I hope it doesn't bore you too much. Sorry it's a bit late. I had to go to Spain almost as soon as we got back from Vegas.


    Orleans - four different reservations here to take advantage of assorted (cheap) offers.

    Reservation 1 - Standard prices for this one. No offers, no free play or food credit. There was also no resort fee, which was nice.

    Reservation 2 Ė $25 per night offer including of $20 free play and $20 food credit. This followed on from the first one and I just went down, checked in and out and kept the same room. No resort fee on the bill for this one either.

    Reservation 3 Ė Another $25 per night offer. No free play or food credit, but we did get Thanksgiving for $25. Not bad considering we paid over $100 for last years Thanksgiving nights. We had the resort fee added to this bill. (I think a supervisor checked me in, probably why we were charged.)

    Reservation 4 Ė Yet another $25 per night offer with the free play and food credit. (No resort fee.)

    Barbary Billís Ė Stayed here for nine nights. The prices dropped for some of our nights so I called and got the better rates. Some had also risen, but they let me keep them as they were.

    Venetian Ė Two nights on the $149 per night offer including $50 slot play per day and $50 bar credit for Lavo at Palazzo. Didnít take long to spend that. A bottle of Estrella that we buy for Ä 0.60 was $9!!! I know itís imported, but really!


    Tom Jones - 10th November - $93.65 each
    Tom Jones at the MGM Hollywood theatre. I really enjoyed the show. I definitely think he was more than slightly tipsy though and heís had far too much surgery. There were the obligatory knicker-throwing women at the front. Tony was sure they were plants. Tony Curtis and LV Norm from LVRJ were in the audience. Tony Curtis spoke to me when he passed our table as they were leaving, (he spoke to a lot of others too, but this was my first real celebrity sighting.)

    Vinnie Favorito Ė 15th November - $27 each (2 for 1 coupon)
    Good show. Donít go if youíre easily offended. He picks on the audience mercilessly. Tony had tears rolling down his cheeks at one part. (Laughing, not crying.) He asked us who we were and where we came from, but he canít have any Brit jokes in his repertoire because he left us alone. We used the two for one from the POV and the Flamingo honoured it even though it was for Osheaís. Tony wanted to go to see him again this trip, but I persuaded him to leave it until next time.

    Neil Sedaka - 16th November - $15 each (2 for 1 coupon)
    This was a good show. Tony liked it more than me because he knew more of the tunes. His voice is still very strong considering heís getting on a bit now. He did a video duet with his daughter and a couple of tracks from his new album. Thanks to Norm for the half price voucher that he sent us.

    Mamma Mia Ė20th November - $44.75 each (with link from Cheapskates forum. Thanks Skybank.)
    I was surprised to learn that this show was 2.5 hours long. I donít suppose you can shorten it much, but they seem to manage with a lot of other shows. It didnít feel long at all and it was a great show. We both enjoyed it, me more than Tony, but he preferred the Neil Sedaka show.

    Ka Ė 22nd November - $79.40 each
    We really enjoyed Ka. This was our first Cirque show. We were greeted by Panto, who used to post as GVNV on Las Vegas Talk. I introduced myself as pebbles, but Iím sure he didnít remember me. He was very nice though, and said he didnít post much anymore because of work commitments. We were in the cheap seats, but there really isnít a bad seat in the house. Got to see almost everything, but sometimes there was so much going on I didnít know where to look.

    Commodores - 29th November - $25 each
    It was a crap show. I knew I had made a mistake going to it when the lights went down and the bass notes started booming out. It was rattling my kneecaps! I didnít recognise many of the songs they sang, they werenít the ones that made it across to the UK. We were in the fourth row centre, so leaving early would have been difficult.


    Tuesday 4th
    Met with Historian (WBTALV) on the day we arrived. He took us up to the VooDoo lounge. We arrived too early for VooDoo and went for a coffee before going up. The glass lifts were out of order so we will have to go up again to experience that. The view from up there is awesome. We were impressed. It will be another thing on our to do list for every visit in future.

    Thursday 6th
    Met Tom (WBTALV) at around 11:30 and drove to an Italian place on Tropicana that he had heard good things about. It was closed, so we drove to the Crown and Anchor. Tony and I had heard of this place before, but had never visited. They had football on Man City v a Dutch team. We ate there instead. We had steak and kidney pie and Tom had bangers and mash. It was OK, seemed reasonably authentic British pub grub. The thing that certainly wasnít authentic was the free refills on our soft drinks. That would NEVER happen in the UK. Went to airport to collect our car. Got a dodge Caliber in dark blue. Took a while to adjust the seat to suit me but got sorted.

    Monday 17th
    Met with MookyBarGirl and her fianc! at Billís lounge. (MoneySavingExpert) They were staying at Ballyís while we were at Billís. The plan was to meet before a Big Elvis set and chat for a while, and then watch his show. They had never seen him before. Well, Big Elvis had called in sick so they didnít get to see him. We were the first to know about their engagement. He hadnít told anyone back home that he was going to propose and they still hadnít called to tell anyone. Anyway, we had a nice chat and a few quiet celebratory drinks.

    Sunday 23rd
    Went downtown this evening and met up with Kiddo (WBTALV) for a short visit. Watched a couple of light shows and had a chat.

    Monday 24th
    Should have been meeting Kiddo, Mr BP and Vegas Diva (WBTALV) for breakfast at Peppermill. Didnít happen because Mr BP wasnít well. I hope heís OK. Just met with Kiddo, who had also invited can2do from Blondeís board. I just had toast and coffee because I knew what the portion sizes were like.

    This evening we met ďSloggerĒ (John) and Richard at the Crown and Anchor. They are a father and son who used to live in the same (tiny) village that I was born in. Slogger worked for Tony when he first left school and Richard is an old friend of my brotherís. We waited until about 10:30 pm, (06:30 am UK time) when Colin would be getting up to go to work and I phoned him, then handed over to Richard. They hadnít kept in touch much since Richard went to America, but they had a good chat and have arranged to keep in touch more often. Richard brought a friend along who also went to the same high school (and lived in the village for a while although I canít remember him - old age creeping up!). Starkey has been living in Vegas for about three years; he was in New York before that. Richard has been in Vegas for about 6 months, although he previously spent time there whenever there was some boxing event on. Heís the official artist for the boxing hall of fame, and does stuff for the UFC too. Website here.

    Tuesday 25th
    It was Kiddoís birthday today. We met at Orleans and had dinner at the buffet. The group was Norm, Andrea, Dusty, Kiddo, Tony and Elaine. Kiddo gave us all a chocolate Turkey for thanksgiving. They looked very professional and tasted good.

    Saturday 29th
    I met with Doxie (WBTALV) for a coffee in a small place in the Canal Shoppes. We had a nice chat, but could only spend a short time together because she had to meet her family for dinner and I had to go to see the Commodores.

    Tuesday 2nd Dec
    Met with Norm at Red Rock Station buffet for dinner. We had a nice meal and good conversation. Tony will be going on a hike or two with Norm and Tom next time we go to Vegas.

    Wednesday 3rd Dec
    Met with Slogger and Richard again. This time we went downtown and had a few drinks at Hennesseyís. The cowboy hat brigade were in full force on Fremont Street because there was the Downtown Hoedown going on. This was our last evening in Vegas, and I really didnít want to go home.


    As many of you know, we donít do much in the way of gambling. This time we did have a bit of free play included in our hotel reservations. We also had coupons for $10 free play at 4 Queens and 2 x $10 at El Cortez. Tony likes to run the exact amount of free play through and then cash out to find out how much he has actually won off the original stake. I donít know what difference it makes, but he seems to like doing that.

    Didnít get anywhere with Wizard of Oz this time, Goldfish was OK, but not as good as previous times, my old favourite Texas Tea was quite kind to us but all in all no wins, just quite a bit of play (and $1 drinks) for not much money. I have to say my new favourite is Outback Jack. There are several bonus rounds and every one seems good fun. There werenít many of them around and they were often being played.

    I actually played a bit of video poker this time. The best I did was on a deuces wild machine where I got a Royal Flush with a deuce for 125 credits. My best hand ever! I know itís nothing to some of you but I was well happy. I did get a couple of 4OAKís here and there, but it was when I was only playing 5c (25c total) so not much to shout about there.

    We had a bet on the Ricky Hatton fight. I wanted to put $50 each on, but we ended up doing $50 between us. It all goes in the same pot so it wasnít a problem. Since the odds were well in Rickyís favour, there was no point in betting on a win, so we went for the ďWonít go 12 roundsĒ and as some of you may know, the fight was stopped in the 11th round. A win for us! We picked up $190 and Tony said he wished weíd done the $50 each. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.


    We mostly ate at buffets, Orleans Coffee Shop or Ellis Island. We had the BBQ at Ellis Island three times with a 2 for 1 coupon. Itís currently Tonyís favourite. We had quite a few 2 for 1 and $5 off coupons and used them when we could. The buffets we ate at (in no particular order). Orleans, Rio, Harrahís, Silverton, Red Rock Station, MSS and Fremont. I have to say we ate less this time than we usually do, and felt better for it.

    Car hire

    We had a car for most of the time we were in Vegas. I think we will be more selective next time, it was extremely convenient, but we did use it just of the sake of it sometimes. We had two separate reservations with dollar. We booked through car hire 3000, who have the full insurance package requires for UK drivers. We are both Dollar express members and itís easy to get your car. The girl in the office remembered us from last May and was really nice.

    First rental period was easy and painless. Dodge Caliber almost brand new. Good seat adjustment (Iím short) and Digital radio.

    The second was not. Disaster! We had the Caliber to begin with and I just chose another. We didnít have luggage; this is significant. We decided to drive to Silverton for lunch. Halfway there I noticed that the gas tank wasnít full. When we parked, we looked at the car and it was obvious that it hadnít been checked properly. There were two coats in the trunk. I called the dollar help number, the woman was no help at all, and so I took the car back. Unfortunately I left the paperwork beside the phone in the Silverton! Nightmare, but finally we sorted it all out (the nice girl in the Express booth was awesome) and ended up with a Hyundai Sonata, which was better for me to drive because it had even more seat adjustments.

    This is just a short one. If you'd like more info about any of the shows, I'm sure I can give you a better review of them. If you got this far, thanks for reading.
    • duchy
    • By duchy 26th Dec 08, 1:52 AM
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    I really like the Orleans -big rooms-and yet to pay full rate there, very nice buffet for a low price-not keen on their coffee shop though had more than one bad meal there on different trips as well as good ones there. The Showroom there is always good value for Vegas too.
    I like the Rio buffet too-although the Palms is good too.
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    • pebblesmax
    • By pebblesmax 26th Dec 08, 11:37 AM
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    Orleans is one of our favourites too. Didn't get to the Palms this year, although we usually have at least one meal there.

    Thanks for reading Duchy. (I do envy your frequent trips.)
  • PandaPants
    My brother and his wife and son are spending a few days in Vegas in January, but all the sites I'm looking at are giving prices for rooms. We would ideally like a 2 bedroom suite, am I best to book direct through the hotel?

    I've always found better deals from a 3rd party. Can anyone please suggest sites than do suites??
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    • pebblesmax
    • By pebblesmax 26th Dec 08, 7:43 PM
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    Here is a basic breakdown of our costs for the month in Las Vegas.

    Flights - - - - - £756.40

    Hotels - - - - £1,331.66

    Car hire - - - - £452.04

    Shows - - - - - £348.75

    Total - - - - - £2,888.85 which works out at £ 48.15 per person per day.

    I hope that it helps someone.
  • gordylad
    This was posted on fatwallet:

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    Managed to change our standard room to lakeview room at the same cost $199 per night. Standard room with the discount is now $159 per night.

    We did think about cancelling as we didnt have a view but this makes the difference now for us.

    Check out fatwallet for the link.
  • gordylad
    Could anyone comment on the following shows that we are thinking about taking in when we visit Vegas:


    Lion King (starts May and is supposed to be the standard Broadway show)

    Chris Angel Mindfreak (Not sure if this will still be on at end April).

    Any other recommendations?

  • TangoBunny
    anyone know when the virgin sale starts.I can get flights for £367.50 with u think I could get them cheaper ???
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 27th Dec 08, 11:36 AM
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    Could anyone comment on the following shows that we are thinking about taking in when we visit Vegas:


    Lion King (starts May and is supposed to be the standard Broadway show)

    Chris Angel Mindfreak (Not sure if this will still be on at end April).

    Any other recommendations?

    Originally posted by gordylad
    Jubilee was good for an old-style Vegas was extraordinarily cheesy in places but you have to expect in-laws agreed they were very glad they saw it before Love and Mystere as they were extremely impressed with Jubilee at the time, but after the other two realised that it wasn't really that special in comparison to what is out there...but worth seeing for an old-school feel.

    Lion King was brilliant in London and I'd be surprised if it wasn't brilliant in Vegas.

    Mindfreak has mostly terrible reviews, but personally if I could get a cheap ticket (not singular as my husband would refuse to see it) I would go just to be able to have my own opinion.

    As far as other recommendations, we like Cirque shows and have really enjoyed all that we've seen...Love is probably our number 1 with O or Mystere following it up and then Ka and LeReve (the latter not actually a Cirque show but same designer worked on it, so). We also liked Penn & Teller, Bette Midler, Mac King (afternoon show)...but shows are really relative - some people love one and others hate it.
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 27th Dec 08, 11:40 AM
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    This is just a short one. If you'd like more info about any of the shows, I'm sure I can give you a better review of them. If you got this far, thanks for reading.
    Originally posted by pebblesmax
    Thanks for the report! interesting about Vinnie Favorito- I'd read a few reviews that lead me to believe it might not be our sort of thing (or at least not the in-law's sort of thing) and steered them away from it...maybe we'll consider it. I'm not easily offended so on that part it should be OK, but I am terrified of being singled out...I'd be the one trying as hard as possible to not be noticed and would most likely be picked on first.

    Thanks again for taking the time to write!
    • pebblesmax
    • By pebblesmax 27th Dec 08, 12:17 PM
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    ferf, he mainly picked on the Mexicans, Blacks, Puerto Ricans, Native Americans, Chinese, old people, etc. In fact all the politically incorrect subjects he could find in the audience. Reading it back it doesn't sound funny, but it was, and the people laughing hardest were the ones he picked on.
    • pebblesmax
    • By pebblesmax 27th Dec 08, 12:29 PM
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    • Stew68
    • By Stew68 27th Dec 08, 12:42 PM
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    anyone know when the virgin sale starts.I can get flights for £367.50 with u think I could get them cheaper ???
    Originally posted by TangoBunny
    Its normally in January, but i'm checking every day just to make sure. I'm getting the same price as you at the moment for May 09.

  • bitgiggy
    Hi all

    Got back from our 12 day trip to LA/Vegas (8 nights in Vegas) just before Xmas. We both really like Los Angeles despite thinking we would be put off for life. We visited Universal Studios which is fantastic and did a tour of the stars homes in Beverly Hills which I would definitely reccommend.

    The drive to Vegas was a long one due to the fact we took a detour through death valley which was awesome and has to be done. Got to Caesars Palace about 9pm and due to our length of stay decided to try the $50 trick at check in which worked a treat, we were upgraded to an Augustus tower suite with a direct view over the Bellagio fountains which were spectacular, as well as a hot tub and walk in shower.

    We did plenty in our time there, we went shooting at the gun store which I definitely reccommend. It was a little expensive at $99 to shoot 3 guns but is now something I can cross off my list of things to do before I die! We also opted for the coach tour of the south rim of the grand canyon which although was a long day, was absolutely amazing! The canyon itself was covered in snow as we were lucky enough to be in Vegas for the first snow in 30 years!

    On our last night after much deliberation we decided to go and see Criss Angels Believe at the Luxor. We had read the bad reviews of the show but opted for the cheapest tickets and decided to make our minds up for ourselves. Anyone worried about buying the cheaper tickets shouldn't be as the theatre itself is relatively small and the view was perfectly fine. As for the show itself I can see why it has bad reviews. Anyone who has seen his show or even the opening clips to Believe make you feel like you are going to see something amazing, this never happens. The tricks themselves are very basic but I do think that the point has been somewhat missed on the show itself. It is a cirque de soleil show and that is pretty much what you get, the set, costumes and dancers were amazing and the show itself was entertaining. I don't regret going to see the show at all, but I wouldn't go back to see it again. I would advise anyone going to seebthe show not to spend silly money on the tickets and not to expect any fantastic illusions, but to go along and make up your own mind.

    I don't know if this would be of interest to anyone in this thread but me and my partner also got tattooed whilst out there by an amazing tattoo parlour, studio 21. It's just off the strip but the shop is veryvprofessional and friendly, the owner even gave us a lift back to our hotel afterwards!

    Anyway thanks for all re advice given on this forum which helped to make our trip a success, if anyone has any questions I will be glad to help out.

    • nvh
    • By nvh 27th Dec 08, 2:18 PM
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    nice one bit.... glad u enjoyed it

    out of interest, how much were your tickets for Criss Angel?

    like ferf, wouldn't mind giving it a go just to see for myself
  • bitgiggy
    nice one bit.... glad u enjoyed it

    out of interest, how much were your tickets for Criss Angel?

    like ferf, wouldn't mind giving it a go just to see for myself
    Originally posted by nvh
    They raised the prices by $10 over the Xmas period so ours were $69 each but I believe you can get them for $59 normally.
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 27th Dec 08, 2:54 PM
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    nice one bit.... glad u enjoyed it

    out of interest, how much were your tickets for Criss Angel?

    like ferf, wouldn't mind giving it a go just to see for myself
    Originally posted by nvh
    Not sure when you are going, but they do have some dates at 40% off.

    Brings the cheapest tickets down to $38.94 each for dates through Feb.
  • TangoBunny
    Its normally in January, but i'm checking every day just to make sure. I'm getting the same price as you at the moment for May 09.

    Originally posted by Stew68
    That's the price I'm getting for late Sept/early Oct.....seems it's across the board
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