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    • Browntoa
    • By Browntoa 6th Jan 20, 4:24 PM
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    I'd prefer the first one as Android and Access to Google play.

    Samsung recently withdrew support for Netflix on some older models which would worry me
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    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 6th Jan 20, 4:33 PM
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    I'd prefer the first one as Android and Access to Google play.

    Samsung recently withdrew support for Netflix on some older models which would worry me
    Originally posted by Browntoa
    I would rather go for the one with the better screen, “smart” can be dumb most times, you can add a stick/pi/phone/tablet etc for the latest other “must haves” for little or no extra cost.
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    • Annie1960
    • By Annie1960 6th Jan 20, 4:36 PM
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    I would rather go for the one with the better screen, “smart” can be dumb most times, you can add a stick/pi/phone/tablet etc for the latest other “must haves” for little or no extra cost.
    Originally posted by debitcardmayhem

    Both screens are good. I'm mainly unsure about the 'Smart' aspects, and how reliable they are. Will one crash more frequently than the other?
    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 6th Jan 20, 4:48 PM
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    I have had a Sony smart TV for a while now. It's OK, quite often the "smart" bit isn't that smart. I don't know if it's Sony's fault or the content provider's fault but turning it off & on again usually sorts it! That's turning it right off, at the wall.
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    • thorganby
    • By thorganby 6th Jan 20, 4:48 PM
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    I have a similar Sony model and it has great picture, sound and features, so I would recommend the Sony.

    I think that they all benefit from a re-boot every now and again, as they are basically computers running Android in the case of the Sony.
    • Annie1960
    • By Annie1960 6th Jan 20, 7:12 PM
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    If I got a more expensive Sony model, would the software be the same?
    • savemoney
    • By savemoney 6th Jan 20, 7:21 PM
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    Trouble with smart tvs after a few years they get slow and more often that not rarely get updates. All our smart tvs and we have 4 latest being a LG 4ktv use amazon firestick 4k even on a 720p tv in bedroom. Its as fast as my LG smart tv because thats fairly new but my 3 year old samsung tv is now struggling with some things now.

    I probably go for the sony, Lg make some excellent tvs though I got mine last year from richer sounds.
    • Annie1960
    • By Annie1960 6th Jan 20, 10:02 PM
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    Does the software not update itself?

    Could I use youtube and catch up with an Amazon fire stick?
    Last edited by Annie1960; 06-01-2020 at 10:08 PM.
    • ballyblack
    • By ballyblack 6th Jan 20, 10:06 PM
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    buy your first choice.........Sony Smart Android, its all you need




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    • mobileron
    • By mobileron 7th Jan 20, 8:24 AM
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    Sony will be the better picture and you will have the advantages of the app store to download the android apps,Samsung apps library is very limited.
    • Annie1960
    • By Annie1960 7th Jan 20, 9:56 AM
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    Thanks, everyone. I'll order the Sony.
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 7th Jan 20, 12:34 PM
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    Just to echo others ... buy the TV which gives you the best picture and sound experience. Don't worry about Smart functions ... a Fire TV Stick/Roku/Other device will give you all the Smart functions you need and will likely be supported for longer than the Smart functions in a TV.

    Even when the stick gets old ... throw it away and get a new one - the TV can still remain the same.

    In other words ... focus your spending on what's important.
    Last edited by DoaM; 07-01-2020 at 12:40 PM.
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    • sal_III
    • By sal_III 7th Jan 20, 2:31 PM
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    Does the software not update itself?

    Could I use youtube and catch up with an Amazon fire stick?
    Originally posted by Annie1960
    The TV update it's software itself (if auto-update is enabled)

    The Manufacturer still need to spend resources (££) to update the software. It has the added disincentive of people not buying new TVs.

    For that reason most TV manufacturers stop releasing updates after 1-2 years and eventually kill "essential" apps like YourTube or Netflix.

    The main benefit of getting a TV with Android OS is that the OS development is handled by Google at no expense for the TV manufacturers and they only need minimal effort on their end, mainly testing, which dramatically increases the chance of getting a software updates for longer.

    I agree that a smart stick/box is a cure for not-so-smart TVs but you lose a lot of integration. For example Youview would allow you to just browse the TV program guide and if oyu like something available on the main Free view channels catchup platforms will launch the app and go directly that episode/movie etc. Also not having to faf about with multiple remotes
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 7th Jan 20, 2:54 PM
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    When I was looking last 2018.
    Sony sets got poor reviews for the interface

    LG, Samsung, Panasonic better.

    For the price of the Sony you need to compare to the Samsung 8000
    • googler
    • By googler 7th Jan 20, 4:42 PM
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    You may well get software updates manually or automatically, but you may not like what happens when you get them.

    I have a couple of "smart" Panasonic Blu-Ray players which, when first purchased, could get, through my network, YouTube and iPlayer.

    I hadn't used one in a while, and connected it up to the monitor in the study; it prompted for a software update, so I complied, and once done - no more YouTube. Which was precisely the thing that I wanted to get.

    You may well be perfectly happy with the internal smartness of any TV right now, but this can easily change in the future, and if it does, you may not like it then.

    In our household, we're now keeping the smartness out of the TV - we can replace/add to the surrounding boxes as required, without being forced into replacing the TV to get the new apps.
    • letsbehonest
    • By letsbehonest 10th Jan 20, 11:27 AM
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    Good advice from DoaM, I’ve got a smart Panasonic TV and we very rarely use it’s smart features, my advice buy the best panel you can afford turn it smart with a fire stick if you want.
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    • ckxion
    • By ckxion 14th Jan 20, 4:24 PM
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    Maybe later Android TV's have all updates available but that is not the case with my Sony Android 2016 kd-49x8005c

    It came with a 2014 nearly useless browser interface which has not been updated to anything modern.

    The OS is not updated by Google, it depends on what Sony decide to include and they deliberately do not include all feature updates for older models. I certainly do not have access to all apps that I have on my android mobile.

    Sony wash their hands of any issues - useless customer service.

    Just checked my last email from 2017 - no reply
    • mobileron
    • By mobileron 14th Jan 20, 5:39 PM
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    Does it have the goggle play store installed.There are may ways of adding apps to the tv.
    • thorganby
    • By thorganby 15th Jan 20, 9:58 AM
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    Maybe later Android TV's have all updates available but that is not the case with my Sony Android 2016 kd-49x8005c

    It came with a 2014 nearly useless browser interface which has not been updated to anything modern.

    The OS is not updated by Google, it depends on what Sony decide to include and they deliberately do not include all feature updates for older models. I certainly do not have access to all apps that I have on my android mobile.

    Sony wash their hands of any issues - useless customer service.

    Just checked my last email from 2017 - no reply
    Originally posted by ckxion
    The last update was released six months ago, so you are talking rubbish!

    https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/televisions-projectors-lcd-tvs-android-/kd-49x8005c/articles/00229299

    Full details of update here:

    https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/downloads/00016209
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